FYS- Plato Quiz 2

Question 1

Explain Thrasymachus’ claim “Why is the unjust man better off than the just” & Why does Socrates Disagree?

Answer 1

Thrasymachus argues that justice is nothing more than the advantage of the stronger (rulers). Thrasymachus argues that the unjust man can achieve greater material success and powe.
Ex: Thrasymachus cites examples of tyrants and powerful individuals who exploit others without consequence, suggesting they live better lives than the just.

Socrates counters that true well-being and fulfillment come from justice and virtue, leading to a more harmonious and meaningful life. He says that the soul is at peace when living with virtue and justice.
Counter to Ex: Socrates points out that the unjust person often creates enemies and faces repercussions for their actions, which can lead to a life filled with fear and instability, undermining their supposed advantages

Question 2

Why does Socrates look for justice in the city & where does he find it?

Answer 2

He is trying to enlarge the context and setting in order to simplify where Justice is found within an intricate system. He also uses a city in his example as a way create a blueprint for an IDEAL society, that way justice can be observed comprehensively and systematically.

He finds Justice within the 3 classes: The rulers, guardians, and workers of the city. Socrates concludes that justice is achieved when each class performs its role harmoniously, without overstepping its bounds. This internal balance reflects a just individual, where reason rules over spirit and appetite.

Question 3

3 Things that ought to be in guardian stories and/or 3 things ought not to be in guardian stories.

Answer 3

Ought to Be
1. Virtuous Role Models
2. Glorification of Sacrifice for the Common Good
3. Balanced Portrayal of Emotions

Ought Not to be
1. Glorification of Immorality
2. Excessive Violence or Brutality
3. Depictions of Cowardice

Question 4

Give 3 examples of Guardians being moderate. Why is this important?

Answer 4

1. Control of Desires
   Guardians must control their desires for wealth and luxury.
2. Courage in Battle
   In battle, Guardians must balance courage with prudence. While they need to be brave to protect the city, they must also exercise moderation by not engaging in reckless behavior.
3. Education and Philosophical Training
   Guardians undergo rigorous education to develop their rational faculties and moral character. They learn to prioritize the welfare of the city over their individual desires.

This is important because it allows for the Guardians to be role models to the other citizens in the city and allows for harmony and balance in the city without a sense of chaos that would disrupt the Justice system set out.

Question 5

Explain the Noble Lie.

Answer 5

Composed of 2 “myths”
1 being that everyone is from a PART or section of the earth, therefore we are all brothers.
2 being that although we are brothers, we have different roles – depicted through elements received for their role. Gold for Rulers
Silver for Guardians
Bronze for farmers, craftspeople
These refer to the metals within their soul
The lie is NOBLE because it benefits the person believing it.