Chapter 9 LECTURE Part 4 Flashcards
asking people “who did the breaking up” may not be as simple as it sounds. it’s a lot more complicated than actually saying “women break up.”
What are a few of the complexities of the break up process?
- it is hard to get reliable info about who did the breaking up.
- in the boston study, the partners in the couples who broke up both said that they were the ones who did the breaking up
- has a lot to do with salvaging our self-esteem. we want to be the dumper, not the dumpee.
- may say that it is mutual.
- gives us more of a feeling of control. - the person who broke up may not want to end the relationship. one partner may want the relationship to end, but the person doesn’t wanna deliver the break up speech. instead, they may jus behave so badly in the relationship that the person (who wanted the relationship to last) might just break up with them. therefore, the person might actually break up with the person “under coercion”
- Good et al. : in the context of marriage, men are more likely to act out poorly. they dont’ wanna face the judgement of divorce on a societal level, so they treat their wives poorly so that their wives break up with them. - break ups are messy and cyclical – may get back together, may “take a break.”
- break ups are not a single event. there can be a whole series of interactions to see who is actually responsible for the break up
-ex/ partner A says : if you don’t stop doing that, I’ll leave.
partner B says: i won’t stop
A; bye
- who broke up this relationship? A or B? hard to tell. it depends on what “that” was.
- a couple will go through this interaction many times before they break up
why do we say that we dumped the person even if we were the one who was dumped?
- we wanna remedy our self esteem
- wanna feel like were more in control.
Findings in Good’s study that looked at how married men usually exit the relationship.
Good et al. : in the context of marriage, men are more likely to act out poorly. they dont’ wanna face the judgement of divorce on a societal level, so they treat their wives poorly so that their wives break up with them.
- that way, the husband can say to his friends “she divorced me”
BATTAGLIA AND Colleagues determined a break up script. Out line their findings
- asked pts to generate the elements of break up process.
- came up with 20 steps
- the critical piece is an ordered script for a relationship dissolution.
- step 1. a lack of interest in relationship
2. noticing other people.
3. act distant
4. try to work things out
5. physical distance
6. lack of interest in relationship
7. consider the break up
8. communicate the feelings
9. try to work things out
10. notice other people.
11. act distant.
12. take a break
13. date other people
14. talk to the person again.
ITS A VERY CYCLICAL PROCESS. it becomes kind of meaningless to ask “who broke up with who” because there was no final point.
explain the study Lee et al 2010 that looked at the question: why do DATING relationships end?
- high volume meta analysis
- kept track of individual characteristics/personalities/attitudes
- kept track of relationship characteristics as a whole
- kept track of external factors (stress, environment, unemployment, family problems, moving)
- when they aggregated the findings, they found that the bulk of the action had to do with RELATIONSHIP DYNAMIC FACTORS; not who you are as a person, not who they are as a person, not our environmental circumstance, but the true relationship characteristics as a whole.
3 main variables that determined how dating relationships would end:
- feelings of love for your partner decline
- positive illusions– we tend to idealize our partners and see our partner as amazing, we see our partner more positively than our partner sees themselves. This is actually GOOD for relationships. lack of positive illusions indicates indicates relationship malfunction.
- commitment– if you do not feel as committed to other partner, relationship is likely to end.
explain the study by Houston et al 2009 that looked at the question: why do MARITAL relationships end?
- looked at newly wed couples
- followed for 13 years (longitudinal)
- gathered data on each partner’s personality (individual characteristics), gathered data about their courtship before marriage, looked at dynamics of their relationshiP (relationship characteristics)
- which couples stayed together and which divorced?
- at the end of 13 years, when the looked at who’s happily married and who isn’t, the people who were happily married were more DEEPLY in love with their partner when they first got married.
- don’t mean over the top infatuation, just healthy deep love and commitment.
- NOT predicting of divorce–deep love is a predictor of happiness in a marriage
T/F: intense love for their partner as newly weds indicate happy marriage
false. extreme infatuation at beginning of marriage are more likely to be unhappy 13 years down the road
T/F: predictors of happiness are the same predictors of divorce
false.
predictor of divorce
- -you perceive your partner is less RESPONSIVE to you than when you first started getting married.
- started having feelings of marriage conflict
- promotes divorce - in the first year of marriage, is there a STEEP DROP of physical contact, that was a strong predictor that down the road your marriage is not going to last.
- these create feelings of ambivalence and disillusionment.
who suffers more during a breakup? Why?
men. is boston couples study, they found out that the men were more depressed after breakup. they felt more lonely, they weren’t appreciateing that they have freedom. overall, men have a harder time for both breakups and divorce.
- less likely to reach out for support
- not as intimate with friends with their personal opinions, hopes, dreams etc. they now don’t have anyone to open up with. the most intimate relationship in mens life is now ended, whereas for women, they have other intimate relationships with their friends.
- etOH use spikes more for men than women
activity that people do when a relationship ends
- obsessive thoughts– trying to figure out WHY a relationship ended. they are usually desperate to come up with explanation that makes sense to them. you feel vulnerable if it doesn’t makes sense. if you don’t know how the relationship ending unfolded, then you won’t know how to prevent it next time.
Wiess (1975) interviewed people who were married and then got divorced. when he did these in depth interviews, what did he discover?
obsessive thinking was a very common reaction.
- trying oto figure out why this happened. trying to weave together a narrative that makes sense
- explanation that they come up with= account
- once people settled on the story that made sense to them // have an account ( could be different from what actually happened), there is A SHARP REDUCTION IN EMOTIONAL DISTRESS
after obsessively thinking, the explanation that people have for the relationship ending is called an :
account.
which partner tends to get over a break up faster? Why?
the one who wanted “out” in a relationship.
or in simplistic terms, usually the one who broke up with the other.
- in the boston couples studied, the partner that initiated more of the “leaving” in the relationship did not suffer as much because there was less 1. pain of rejection and they were not having as many 2. obsessive thinking.
problem with obsessive thinking
sometimes, the explanation a person comes up with in terms of why the break up occurred is not actually the real reason for break up.
- they may apply this faulty logic to their new relationship, but that might be the wrong thing to do.