Soul, mind and body 2 Flashcards
What is Plato’s take on the soul?
Dualism
Describe Plato’s theory of the Forms.
Notices a decay in nature, but thinks our minds are immortal. We are trapped in an imperfect body, the soul has a desire to leave to go to the realm of the Forms.
Talk about the significance of Heraclitus’ famous quote to Plato.
‘you cannot step in the same river twice’- if permanence cannot be found in the physical world, it must exist in another world. The soul must be immortal to experience this.
Describe Plato’s charioteer metaphor.
There are divisions in the soul:
Appetitive (greed) - black horse
Spirited (our virtues) - white horse
Rational (intellectual) - charioteer guiding.
(tripartite view on the soul)
The black horse dies, the physical body goes to the Horaton. Virtues white horse goes to the Noeton (soul).
Describe Plato’s hatred to the physical body.
‘the body is the source of endless trouble’.
It’s lustful, hungry, fearful. It is like a prison, like the cave is in the cave analogy.
What is the advantage to Plato’s thinking?
Highlights individuality of people, Freud’s Id, Ego, Superego
What are the weaknesses to Plato’s thinking?
Is the soul no longer complete when we die?
Pleasure isn’t always bad.
Doesn’t touch on how soul and body interact. If the soul goes to the Forms, how can it see the Forms? Sight is associated with the physical body.
What is Descartes’ take on the soul?
Substance Dualism (mind and body are two completely different substances, so are distinct from one another).
What was Descartes’ earliest take on the soul, that he later disputed?
Earliest work, Le Monde, said there was no ‘earthly substance’ or ‘heavenly substance’. Everything is made of the same substance.
Give a Descartes quote that backs up his substance dualism.
‘The body, by nature is divisible, but the mind is not’ (Meditations)
If someone got an amputation, they would have less of a body, but the mind always stays the same.
Why can Descartes be disagreed with?
Some people’s minds are arguably divisible.
People get Dementia, and children’s brains take a while to fully develop. Are they less of a person if they have less of a mind?
Mind can also be mistaken.
What made Descartes dispute earlier thinking of the soul?
Realised that our senses could be mistaken. Approached problem with scepticism and found out that the mind was the ‘first certainty’- ‘cogito ergo sum’.
We could all be in a ‘dreamworld’, agreeing with Plato, all we can be certain of is the mind.
What is an advantage to substance dualism?
People describe having ‘out of body experiences’.
Describe Descartes talk about substances and properties.
Says a substance has properties, properties cannot exist without the substance.
A rug would be the substance, its property would be being soft.
Substance dualists think that the mind is a substance and that its emotions are properties.
But the body is a substance with the property of ‘extension’ (taking up space) that the mind doesn’t. They both make the ‘self’.
What does Descartes think is the ‘principle seat of the soul’ and why?
The Pineal gland, as most areas in the body are double, two eyes, two arms, but pineal gland is central, the connecting point to the body and soul.