Nature or attributes of God - Eternal Flashcards
Eternal/timeless:
God is outside of time.
Biblical idea of God eternal:
Isaiah- ‘who inhabits eternity, whose name is holy’.
Wolterstorff on God eternal:
God also has separate experience:
For humans- ‘the gnawing of time bites us all’.
Key thinker for God as eternal:
Boethius
What is Boethius’ book:
The Consolation of Philosophy
Boethius context:
Philosophy is ‘Lady Companion’ comforting him through his dichotomy whilst he is in prison.
How are we with free will, but God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent?
What does Boethius say about time?
God doesn’t experience past, present and future, but instead sees them all at the same time. Separate to time.
Humans see time as linear.
No interaction by God and us.
What does Augustine say about God and time?
- God created time, time does not exist for him.
- Also speaks of ‘analogical language’, we cannot live up to God, too supreme so we are describing a time that is nothing like his.
How does Aquinas respond to Boethius?
‘Eternity exists as a simultaneous whole but time does not’.
What is Anselm’s approach?
The Four Dimensionalist Approach
What is Anselm’s four dimensionalist approach?
- Opposes Presentism.
- Says terms like ‘yesterday’, ‘next week’ are subjective. Happy New Year. Time is limited by space.
- Yet, God is omnipresent, so it not limited by time.
- God is not in ‘time and space’, instead ‘time and space’ is in God.
- Means we have free will, God sees but doesn’t interact.
Boethius quote:
‘as though from a lofty peak’.
Anselm response to Boethius quote:
There is no ‘as though’, literally how God sees the world.
Problem with Boethius:
- Defines a God that is intrinsically different to one of classical theism.
- Rather than theist God, a Deist God- provides questions about Jesus and Prayer.
Problems with a timeless God:
- Swinburne- notion of time being ‘simultaneously present’ to God is incoherent.
- How can God be personal? Stories of miracles in the Bible.
- Why should we love God if it’s only a one way purpose?
- Point of prayers?
- Paul Helm, ‘God considered to be timeless cannot have temporal relationships with any of his creations’.