The Sadeian Woman - quotes - complete Flashcards

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What does carter say about beauty, youth and innocence in women

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beauty, youth, and innocence in women give them an artificial ascendancy…she is compensated for her defencelessness by a convention of respect which is largely false’

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What does carter say about the mystification of the feminine self

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herself mystified by herself, narcissistically enamoured of the idea of herself as Blessed Virgin, she has no notion at all of who she is except in fantasy’

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What does Carter say about where Justine’s valuing of herself lies

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has never resided in herself but in the values of the open market’

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What does carter say about what Justine is the start of

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self regarding female masochism, a woman with no place in the world, no status, the core of whose resistance has been eaten away by self pity’

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What Edmund ___say the Sadeian woman is for her other books

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Gordon - a sort of guide to the other books she wrote during this period

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What is Carter’s attitude to Sade overall

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he expresses the hypocrisies of a patriarchal society that treats women as property

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What do Juliette and Justine represent

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Opposing responses to patriarchal oppression

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what particular response to the patriarchy does Justine embody

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following traditional morality in an effort to attain virtue (but it only leads to suffering)

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what response to the patriarchy does Juliette embody

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she embraces libertinism and uses her sexuality as a source of power and agency

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What is Carter’s response to 1970s radical feminist movements about sexuality

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she sees it as dangerous to completely reject sexuality/suppress sexual expression
- as it could paint women as perpetual victims who have no power to define their sexual agency (denies agency)

However she also acknowledges that sexuality is not inherently liberating

Overall the relationship between sexuality and power is nuanced and can be used to subjugate or empower women

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what did 1970s radical feminist movements view sexuality/overt sexual expression and pornography as

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tools of patriarchal control for the objectification of women

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Give a quote supporting the idea that the dominatrix character in pornography is not a powerful female figure

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the dominatrix is actually a ‘manifestation of the victim’s guilt before the fact of his own sexuality’

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what is the association with teh setting of the forest in Justine

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‘the place of rape’

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what is the association with the fortress in Justine

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‘the place of confinement and pain’

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give a quote about Justine and virtue and suffering

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there is ‘no mysterious virtue in Justine’s suffering’

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what is the essence of Justine’s virtue

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‘doing what she is told’

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what makes Justine important to herself

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‘her denial of her own sexuality, it what makes her important to herself’

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Justine offers herself up as an object of ____expecting ___and is instead inevitably ___

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pity, respect, desecrated

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the dual standards of feminist y are perfectly balanced in what girl

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pre-pubescent (on the cinema screen - you could analyse the cinematic nature of some of Carter’s work and see this as similar to the pulp-fiction cinematic nature of Dracula)

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why can beauty and sexuality not be reconciled in women

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while that beauty relies upon a conception of beauty in innocence, they cannot be married

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why is the ‘pre-sexual waif’ a sexual icon

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she is ‘tacitly assumed to be sexually inactive’ so her sexy beauty cannot ruin her attractiveness)

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Give a quote about passivity being death-like

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to be the object of desire is to be defined in the passive case. To exist in the passive case is to die in the passive case - that is, to be killed. This is the moral of the fairy tale about the perfect woman.’

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Give a quote about how niether Justine nor Juliette succeed in overcoming the patriarchy

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b. Justine is a ‘pawn’, Juliette is the ‘queen’, but the king is still ‘the lord of the game’

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Give a quote showing Sade’s works are like fairy tales

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a. Sade sees psychology as fixed, with vice and virtue as innate. ‘this straightjacket psychology relates his fiction directly to the black and white ethical world of fairy tale and fable’

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Give a quote about the moral structures of fairy tales

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black and white ethical world of fairy tale and fable

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Give a quote about the unresolved contradiction in Sade’s fiction whcih could be used to explore morality and amorality in TBC

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his characters represent moral absolutes in a world where no moral absolutes exist’ (this is an unresolved contradiction in his fiction

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Give 2 things that are symbolic of the womb

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‘the sea’ and ‘caves’

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give male attitudes to the womb according to Carter

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‘men long for it and fear it’ - this could link to the bloody chamber in the bloody chamber being a womb (the marquis sees it as his ‘enfer’ and hence fears it but he also loves it

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Give carters description of the womb

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‘warm, moist, dark, inward, secret, forbidden, fleshy core of the unknowable labryrinth of our experience’

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Why are women sacred

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they possess a womb

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how do we demystify the woman

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deny the bankrupt enchantments of the womb

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how is the mother a denial of sexual pleasure

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‘her sexuality has been placed at the service of reproductive function alone’

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How does safe write about sexual relations - in what terms?

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’in terms of butchery and meat’

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what are the delights of meat

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The butcherly delights of meat…are not sensual but analytical;

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give a quote about carnal knowledge

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carnal knowledge is the infernal knowledge of the flesh as meat

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