Milk and Meat YD 87 Flashcards
Answer for all of the letters
A. Meat from a kosher domesticated animal
B-D. Prohibited
E. Cooking
F. Fowl or meat from a non domesticated animal
G. Not advisable. Only allowable if there is no possibility of a bystander misunderstanding what you are doing.
H. Proscribed (prohibited by man’s law)
I. Not Proscribed
J. Mixture, Any form of mixture
לכתחילה can milk be cooked in a meat pot?
No
If milk is cooked in a meat pot, what is the status of the milk and the pot?
A. Both the milk and the pot are rabinically forbidden
B. Both the milk and the pot are rabinically forbidden (prob w/conservative tshuvah?)
C. Both the milk and the pot are rabinically forbidden
D. The milk is permitted, the pot is rabbinically forbidden.
What is the lowest temperature at which the prohibition of cooking meat and milk will take place? Hebrew Term
יד סולדת בו
Scalding heat, varies by posek can be around 115 degrees farenheight
Can the flavor absorbed in the walls of a pot be nullified?
IE - if you cook a dairy soup in a meat pot, לכתילה can the meat taste be nullified?
Technically yes, practically no.
Technically yes – absorbed flavors can be nullified by sixty, ביטול בשישים. So if the volume of the dairy soup is more than 60 times the volume of the pot, you can eat the dairy soup.
Practially no – Mathmatically, such a pot would crumble under the weight of the soup it was holding. Only tin cans seem to have walls thin enough to be nullified. And really, if you’re cooking out of a tin can, kashrut isn’t such a big concern.
C, F, I, L - The ladle is always prohibited, since it has absorbed meat and milk (even ta’am pagum milk)
The pot and the food always have the same status.
A&B - Permitted, ביטול בשישים
D&E - Permitted, since the ladle is ta’am pagum
G&H - Prohibited
J&K - Permitted, since the ladle is ta’am pagum
What part of the ladle emits flavor into the food? Who held by which letter?
There is a difference of opinion. Go back and edit this card to know who said what.
Shulcan Aruch - jsut the part that was inserted. But if the spoon is metal, then all of it since heating a little part of metal heats the whole thing.
What is the ruling on the cheese (A-D)? Why?
What is the ruling on the knife (I)?
Assumption : The knife has not be halachically cleaned, it still has smutz on it.
A. The cheese that can be “peeled” or “grasped” is prohibited. B/C even if we have Batel b’shishim we rule that the dairy flavor is absorbed in the part of the meat that can be peeled or grasped.
B & D - The cheese that can be “peeled” or “grasped” is prohibited. B/C of residue that remains on a knife.
C. All of the cheese is prohibited.
I. In ever case, the knife is prohibited.
Which part of the knife is considered to impart flavor when we know how much of the blade penetrated? What is the halacha in a case of doubt?
Flavor is emmited from the part of the blade that penetrated into the food. In cases of doubt, the entire blade is assumed to have entered the meat.
What is the halacha regarding the food (E-H)? Why?
What is the halacha regarding the Knife (J)?
E, F, H. All of the milk is permitted. We are not worried about residue from the knife.
G. All of the milk is prohibited.
J. The knife is prohibited.
A piece of meat falls into a pot of cooking milk. If the volume of the milk is 60 times greater than the volume of the piece of meat, What is the status of the milk, meat, and pot?
Does it matter if the meat is cold?
The milk and pot are permitted since the volume of the emitted meat flavor is nullified.
The meat is prohibited since is too small to nullify the absorbed dairy taste.
It does not matter if the meat is cold.
A piece of meat falls into a pot of cooking milk. The volume of the milk is not 60 times greater than the meat. What is the status of the milk, pot, and meat?
Does it matter if the piece of meat is hot or cold?
The milk and pot are prohibited because they have absorbed meat flavor and are not large enough to nullify that flavor.
The meat is always probhibited because it has absorbed dairy flavor.
If the meat is still cold, then have a non Jew taste the pot to see if flavor was imparted. If the non Jew says that no flavor was imparted, then the pot & the milk are mutar. If the non Jew says the meat imparted taste, or if the meat boils, then the pot and milk is assur.
Cold meat and cheese come into contact. What happens..
A. If both the meat and the cheese are completely dry
B. If one of them is even partially damp
C. If one of them contains fat which adheres
A. They are permitted even without rinsing. But its best practice not to do this.
B. The portions that came in contact must be rinsed. (The custom is to rinse thoroughly)
C. For example, butter comes into contact with meat, the area where they came into contact should be thoroughly scraped and rinsed.
When can milk and meat be placed on the same table?
If no one is eating at the table
There are two friends, one is eating milk and one is eating meat. They want to sit and eat at the same table. What three ways can they do that?
1) The sit far enough apart so they can’t touch eachother’s plate
2) They place something between them that is not usually there (ie, flowers, etc) so they remember not to take from eachother’s plate. We can even use bread, but we have to be careful not to eat from the loaf of bread.
3) They change something on the table so that they remember not to take from eachother’s plate (ie placemats, seperate tablecloths)