Week 7: Revelation 12 & 13

Question 1

Jon Pauline (ch 12)

Answer 1

• Cycles of 7
• Each introduced by a sanctuary image
• The ark of the covenant → opened at the end of chapter 11
• Now we’re looking at the judgment scene
• Judgment = vindication. Can be a very good thing.

Question 2

White stone

Answer 2

• A symbol of being acquitted
• Day of atonement = relationships made whole at the end of the celebration then the feast of tabernacles
• When we follow the high priest we follow by faith.

Question 3

The woman and the dragon (rev 12:1-6) – Identifiers for the woman

Answer 3

• Clothed with the sun. Bright. Sun represents glory of God
  Moon under her feet. Reflected glory.
• Eve. Serpent and a woman. Is it mary..is it eve? Its both but in a limited way.
• More likely = a promise to the women of Israel, that they will birth the Messiah.

Question 4

Identifiers for the dragon

Answer 4

• Lion, leopard, bear, nondescript beast
• Beasts of the nations through the years
• Satan himself driving the persecutions throughout time
• Christ escaped the temptations of Satan

Question 5

Time prophesy: 1,260 days (see vs. 14, and 11:2, 3, 13:5)

Answer 5

• Woman fled into the wilderness where she would escape to for 1,260 days
• The woman = represents the people of God
• Persecution breaks out in Jerusalem then it spreads to Rome. - Then Rome becomes the church and persecutes the people of God.
• Tied to the little horn in Daniel ch 7. Church state power of Rome.

Question 6

War in heaven – Timing (ch 12)

Answer 6

• What we see here is a specific war/battle apart of a greater battle with God and Satan
• Satan was cast out…Job on Earth = caught up in a battle between Satan and God. Satan was wandering upon the Earth, - God says “have you seen my servant Job”

Question 7

narrative of ch. 12. Dragon and baby and woman

Answer 7

• Messiah comes = now the prince of this world is cast out.
• Messiah conquered Satan.
• The fall = Satan usurped power over the Earth
• This battle = for the allegiance of God’s people

Question 8

Dragon identified

Answer 8

• The ancient serpent, the devil
• Cast down, and angels cast down

Question 9

Woe to the earth (12:12, part of 7th trumpet)

Answer 9

• Contains a promise to the overcomers
• Those who overcome: they do it by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony

Question 10

Ark of the covenant scene

Answer 10

• Day of atonement scene. Now we’re inside the holy place?
• Judgment is going to happen and its going to begin with the house of God
• …cause there are people who claim to be christians who are really not
• Christian church itself claimed to be the body of christ but were opposite

Question 11

Persecution of the woman (Rev 12:13 - 17) (post child)

Answer 11

• Dragon goes after her with a river, but is preserved by the earth
• She is in wilderness, she has offspring, people go after her
• We see this theme again, but its a different looking woman (ch. 17)

Question 12

Woman preserved by “the earth”

Answer 12

Saved from the dragon

Question 13

Dragon goes off to fight the woman’s children

Answer 13

Goes after them → idk man this is basically what he said

Question 14

Commandments of God

Answer 14

• The woman’s offspring:
  1. They keep the commandments
  2. They have the testimony of Jesus christ

Question 15

Testimony of Jesus (in Revelation)

Answer 15

• Goes all the way back to chapter 1
• A loaded phrase
• They have the ability to understand prophecy, part of the characteristic of God’s people

Question 16

The Dragons Allies

Answer 16

• A beast that comes out of the sea
• On his heads a blasphemous name
• A beast comes out of the land

Question 17

Identifying marks (ch 13)

Answer 17

• Dragon gives him his throne →
• 4th beast might have been a dragon

Question 18

Links to Daniel 7 (and thus, daniel 2) (ch 13)

Answer 18

• Lion and wings of an eagle, bear, leopard, iron teeth beast → all come out of the sea
• An amalgamation of all these pagan nations mentioned in daniel

Question 19

Parody of Jesus (the beast in ch 13)

Answer 19

• This beast is a parody of Jesus christ
• Time of power = 1260 days (3 ½ years) → same as Jesus time of power/ministry
• Prophetic time. Day for a year. 1260 yrs of little horn rule. Church state power of Rome.

Question 20

Parody of Jesus (the beast in ch 13) (CONT)

Answer 20

• Fatal wound that gets healed = Jesus died then came back to life
• Power from somewhere else = Jesus got his power from the father
• Beast is spitting image of his father the dragon (heads + horns) = Jesus is the image of his father
• Blasphemy on him (I am God and you are not) = Jesus was accused of blasphemy (story of paralyzed man being lowered into house + Jesus healing him)

Question 21

Preterist: ch 13

Answer 21

• Rome.
• Caesar himself. Satan is working through Rome to persecute the christian people.

Question 22

Historicist: ch 13

Answer 22

• Reformers.
• Representation of the papal power of the dark ages.

Question 23

Futurist: ch 13

Answer 23

• Unmasking of the antichrist.
• Will arise in the 7 last years of tribulation. In the middle of that 7 last years.
• → they think any major world power that has globalism associated with it, or anything with secularism could be the antichrist.

Question 24

Idealist: ch 13

Answer 24

• There have been antichrists all throughout time.
• Some support from the little letter as 1st John (author is John).
• Antichrist = means “in place of”. They want to take Christ’s place, and be a false christ.
• It does seem to fit parts of all cultures and several bad “antichrist” rulers

Question 25

Interlude (13:9-10)

Answer 25

• If anyone has ears to hear let him hear
• The time will come when the dragon will die by the sword

Question 26

Rome and the Pope (ch 13)

Answer 26

• Its not the beast out of the sea thats the worrisome one
• Its the next one out of the land

Question 27

Land-Beast (13:11-18)

Answer 27

• Sea = medo persia
• Church lost its power in late 1700s
• Then it had a resurgence

Question 28

Identifying marks (ch 13) (america)

Answer 28

• Comes out of the land = somewhere new thats not the middle east/Europe
• Two horns like a lamb, speaks like a dragon
• Two horns = what do they represent
• All the authority of the 1st beast

Question 29

Links to Daniel 3 (ch 13)

Answer 29

• Makes an image of that first beast that everyone has to worship
• Dan 3 → 6 and 60 cubits. → now we’re at 666
• What nation/power came out in 1700s → United States
  Will rule like Rome did

Question 30

America as the second beast (ch 13)

Answer 30

• “We don’t want any more popes and kings”
• “We want a voice in who rules us”
• Two horns like a lamb = civil liberty and religious freedom (God doesn’t force worship)
• Freedom leaves a vacuum. Somebody is going to take power and do something with it.
• Brant sees a future where the conservative south can win in a civil war → going back to “God and country”
• Religion-political powers involved

Question 31

Parody of the Holy Spirit → ch 13 + antichrist + america stuff

Answer 31

• Calls fire down from heaven
• Now it is the false beast who calls fire down from heaven
• 2 places in OT where this happens: Story of Elijah the prophet →
• Called to go to King Ahab. His wife Jezebel lead Israel and them to praise other God.
• Elijah says “its not gonna rain for a long time until you stop worshiping Bail”
• Two altars made. One for bale, one for God.

Question 32

Elijah’s fire story cont

Answer 32

• The God Bale = his jizz is the rain lmao. So they thought if they excited him, by having sex, then the rain would come and the plants would grow.
• Have sex with temple prostitute for epic church moment (Bale)
• Late in the afternoon Elijah taunts them “I wonder of Bale is sleeping” lol
• Elijah calls everyone together. Makes trench w/ water around altar, sacrifice and wood is waterlogged.
• Fire comes down from heaven and everything is burnt to a crisp → God is God
• Now it is the false beast who calls fire down from heaven

Question 33

Acts of the apostle (parody of the holy spirit)

Answer 33

• What happens 50 days after Jesus dies
• They’re all together, praying about what to do next
• On the day of Pentecost, the holy spirit fell on them like fire on their heads (evidence of the power of God)

Question 34

Mark of the Beast - 666

Answer 34

• Contrast with the seal of God → only on the forehead
• Mark of the beast → arm or the forehead
• Mark of the beast must have his own commandments. But the issue is not the exact day that you worship.

Question 35

Mark of the Beast - 666 (cont)

Answer 35

• End of Ch. 12 → Beast goes after those with commandments + testimony of Jesus
• Says its a number of a man = man created on 6th day
• Nebuchandnezzar made a man-made image, and so is this
• Seal of God can only happen when you’re fully convicted (forehead only = heart)
• but the beast says “you must worship the dragon” = more superficial (forehead or arm)

Question 36

Book of Genesis

Answer 36

• Brant argues that eve was legitimately deceived
• Also argues that Adam knew better but ate fruit anyway
• Two different kinds of the seals (666)

Question 37

Preterist: ch 13

Answer 37

1st century → if you gave offerings outwardly to pagan Gods then this could be a sign of the beast. Everyone would know who worships who.

Question 38

Historicist: ch 13

Answer 38

• Beast out of the land is America, and at some point it will act like Rome in the dark ages
• SDA people took this belief up early in America’s history
• Enforces an issue of worship at some point

Question 39

Futurist: ch 13

Answer 39

• A literal mark or tattoo that people will receive on their arm or forehead
• Some have said it will be the chip that can be implanted in your hand

Question 40

Idealist: ch 13

Answer 40

• There have been movements throughout history that have forced people to think a certain way
• Argue that it may get worse