F2: Radient Systems Flashcards
What type of Pex was created using the Engel method and has a memory?
PeX A
What kind of fittings can PeX A be used with?
expansion type, crimp / compression
What is PeX A’s best quality?
ability to be kinked / repaired by just adding heat
Can PeX B and C use expansion fittings?
No and any kinks have to be cut out / replaced.
What kind of Pex has to be used when installing radiant panels?
The type that has an oxygen barrier coating for heating.
What does the oxygen barrier provide?
minimizes the rate of oxygen diffusion (decreases rusting
This type of pipe is red in colour
True or False: adding rust inhibitors additives to radiant system helps keep level of free oxygen low
True
What is a Wet system?
PeX tubing is embedded within a concrete mass
Is a wet system the best option for a radiant heat transfer in a house?
Yes
What does WWF stand for?
Wire mesh
What does the spacing between ties have to be to ensure the tube doesn’t float up in the concrete slurry?
24” between ties
Should you use an open flame to fix kinked PeX A tubing?
No
Can joints be used in embedded concrete?
No
AHJ will not allow it
What is the min of rigid polystyrene foam used between the vapour barrier and the slab bottom?
2 1/2”
True or False: most installers only use foam for the first 2 feet from the outer wall.
True - one the ground settles heat loss is min
What is the most common way to install in floor heating?
using 1 1/2” thick concrete / gypsum mixture (poured in two “lifts” over 1/2” tubing) and tubing is stapled to the plywood subfloor.
What’s the less common way of installing in floor heating?
using pre-formed plastic mats
What type of system is used outdoors as a snow melt system?
A wet system
What kind of circulating solution is used for outdoor systems?
Antifreeze or brine
How is the outdoor system separated from the building heating system?
through the use of a heat exchanger
The heat exchanger acts as what?
as a boiler –> would need it’s own expansion tank, circulator and make up water (and backflow preventer)
What is a “Dry System”?
In floor heating system used indoors
Where is the most common spot for a dry system to be installed?
Joist space - min 2 pex runs are attached to the sides of the joist placed 3” below the subfloor
What is the less common way of installing a dry system in the joists?
using hangers to support pipe
What is a major down-side of installing in floor between joists?
Air being trapped in the joist space
Is air a better insulator or a conductor?
A better insulator
What is an even better way to run in floor heating?
Using aluminum plates that are stapled to the underside of the floor.
This has a better heat transfer rate.
Are dry system temperatures higher or lower than wet systems?
Much higher
Does insulation have to be installed between joists if in floor heating is installed?
Yes
True or False: The insulation between joists has to have a higher R value than subfloor/ floor covering.
True, the heat will be driven upwards
What kind of radiant panel is used in institutions? (hospitals / schools)
Radiant ceiling panels
What type of in floor heating layout is the most common for 1 - 2 outside walls?
S-shaped serpentine pattern
What type of in floor heating layout is most common for multiple outside walls?
Spiral (counter flow) pattern
What is the main consideration in loop layouts?
That the warmest water should always be delivered to the area of greatest heat loss first
How is tube spacing determined?
tube size and the floor output in BTUH/ft2
What is the most common spacing in residential?
12” - 9” - 6” (4” is less common but usable)
What would happen if the heat output exceeds 40 BTUH/ft2?
the high temp would be uncomfortable and supplemental heat (baseboard wall fin) has to be used
how is the max length of radiant tubing determined?
on the loops delta T and size
What happens if the recommended tube lengths are exceeded?
frictional resistance increases –> causes more pressure on circulator / water flow rate is less than expected.
A total heat loss estimate will tell us what?
each room’s heat loss
Where shouldn’t tubing be installed and why?
Under cabniets - ineffective
Kitchen - ineffective/ food spoils quickly
Under stoves/ refrigerator- both generate heat
Toilet bowl - melts wax ring
Who has to approve joint or connection in concrete?
Manufacturer or AHJ
How much concrete should be maintained over tubing?
3/4”
What is the max spacing between ties on a straight run?
3m (10’)
What is the max spacing between ties on bends?
0.2m (8”)
What is the heat plant most commonly associated w/ Hydronic heating?
Boilers
What is the determining factor when sizing heat loss?
The heat plants OUTPUT
If the boiler’s output is greater than the heat load, this ensures what?
That there is enough of a buffer to deliver the heat needed even of the coldest days of the year.
What does the choice of piping dictate when sizing a circulator?
How many circulators are needed
Where they are to be located
Where should pumps be installed?
Downstream of the “point of no pressure change”
What is the point of no pressure change?
The point in the piping system where the expansion tank attaches to the supply main
What is the pumps job?
To move water when zones call for heat
produce pressure needed to overcome frictional losses
Head loss that a pump has to overcome, comes from where?
It only has to overcome the single circuit w/ the most frictional resistance which includes head loss through the longest loop that it supplies.
How is Circuit length measured?
Start from pumps outlet –> most remote manifold or heat emitter / back to the pump’s inlet
Add 50% - accounts for extra frictional resistance caused by fittings