weber Flashcards
durkheim and nominalism
not a nominalist
- Interested in social facts
weber and nominalism
- What he will argue is that empirical data is not sociologically relevant, unless it can be related to the
meanings of the people it describes - Deals with meanings with individuals or groups
- Only cares about correlation if there is an explanation for it based on the meanings of the minds
based on the people it describes - AKA he wants to know what you are thinking as a participant in that correlation
- Uses the CULTURAL SCIENCES
Durkheim vs. weber conceptions of sociology
2 very different conceptions of what sociology is
- Weber will agree with Durkheim that correlation can be used within sociology
- Disagrees with Durkheim saying that we must use history with sociology
- And instead of studying social facts we have to study social action
Durkheim ignores people Weber respects people
webers definition of sociology
- As a science that attempts the interpretive understanding of social action, in order to derive a
causally adequate explanation for its course and its effects - Every word is EXTREMELY important
- Tension between science and interpretation scientists observe
weber’s social action
- Any action because of the subjective meaning attached to it, the actor takes into account the
behaviour of others when he or she acts - Weber says we are going to do a scientific investigation and figure out its effects
- Has to interpret the meanings of the actors in that bracket
he is a historical sociologist. The meanings he finds are
from dead people
what does weber want in his study of sical action
causal adequacy
what is causal adequacy
- Looking for causal adequacy
- Reasonable explanation and proof about something
- He would never say he has found THE proof or THE cause
- Durkheim says he has found a REASONABLE explanation
how is weber going to study social action
Verstehend, ideal type, history, and causal adequacy
explain verstehend
- In the act of interpreting he is trying to understand the meaning of the actors
- Know one defines interpreting… its reasoning and intelligence
- Trying to understand perspectives of others
- What he is assuming is that what people think has a great deal to do with what people do
(NOMINALISM) - Sometimes this hits a roadblock, because of bias and personality problems
- This method doesn’t actually work as well as it should
explain ideal type
- Weber insists of talking about meaning
- Not only because he wants to understand what is going on in the head
- He cannot let go of meaning (what people mean)
- And logically we can all have different meanings
- He must aggregate and assign meanings to a collective
- This is an issue because: wants to know the effect
- Create an exaggeration example of there meanings
- Not interested in taking an average sample of human beings
- Wants to paint a protestant picture of menaing
- Develop a stereotype of the protestant
- IDEAL TYPE = STEREOTYPE (without any negative or positive connotation)
explain history
history = meaning
- Most of the meanings that influence what we do, come from culture and historical tradition
- People do a lot of things because they think they have meanings – meanings transcend time
- Wants to be able to argue that certain historical events are important events
- objective posibility
what was webers methodology
- Objective possibility: Take any event in history and imagine that it happened in the opposite way. If,
on the basis of research, you can then demonstrate that the present would have been different, then
the actual event constitutes an adequate cause of the present - Accidental cause- not irrelevant but not an adequate cause
explain causal adequacy
- Weber’s substantive sociology
- Conception and perception of reality
- People have meaning and this influences what they do
- Must build an ideal type of social action (HIS FOCUS)
- Begin his studies with an ideal typology of social action
- Must think about the underlying patterns of social action in which they are based
what is the 4 types of social action
- zweckrational
- wertrational
- affectiolnal
- traditional
STRONG CLAIM – these 4 types of action or some combo of them explain the universe of all possibilities
that human beings can engage
- Nothing else you are capable of doing
-building blocks for all of his sociology
explain zweckrational action
We are in charge of what happens
- In our minds