Brahms vs Wagner Flashcards
revival of past music 2
- new field of musicology
- proportion of older works increased
bulow
championed both sides of dichotomy
brahms vs wagner 3
conflict of ideology, hot to compose from now on
shared common goals
linked selves to beet
brahms argument 2
- created works in classical tradn
- leaning towards absolute music
new view of classical music 2
dichotomy between classical and pop
classical viewed as sacred refuge
johannes brahms compositions 4
german requiem: not typical Latin mass, but from other parts of bible and apothryica, gentler themes
200+ Lieder
piano and string quintet
symph no 4 - symphonies model beet
brahms themes
used small germinal ideas, essence of motive that’s taken and extrapolated (scene in 5tet in Fm)
brahms working style 3
slow, self critical, methodical
symph no 4 2
romantic level orchestra with baroque style
chaconne - over repeated bass line
brahms audience
kept works accessible to average amateur and listener, enjoyable without analysis
wagnerians
wagner, liszt, berlioz
wagner arguement 2
saw beet pointing in new direction towards Gesamtkunstwerk - artistic ideal
leaned towards programmatic music
liszt symphonic poems 5
- stand alone orchestral work
- not something beet would have done
- sections contrasting in character, tempo
- symphonic in sound, weight, development
- follows ideals of poems
liszt thematic transformation
motif modified and expanded, similar to idee fixe, leitmotives, developing germinal idea
strauss tone poems
programs based on lit or personal experience, range from representational to philosophical
