weber - secondary Flashcards
algevall, definition
o He speaks of the ‘spirit of capitalism’ yet does not define what is meant by ‘spirit’
o Algevall argues that W is concerned with a ‘particular mode of conduct adequate for capitalism’ (160)
algevall, natural
- ‘Weber’s thesis is… (that): a “capitalist spirit” did not develop because religious sentiments were weakened, but because they were exceptionally strong. The “capitalist spirit” is not natural to man’ (162)
o A positive force is necessary for man to continue to work efficiently as their salaries increase. For W, this can be found within Protestantism
agevall on weber thesis
♣ ‘Stating Weber’s thesis as ‘Protestantism caused…. Capitalism’ is wrong on all accounts… The historical individual to be explained is not capitalism; the explanans is not Protestantism’ (171)
♣ Weber focuses on the spirit of capitalism. Link between capitalism and Prot is not causal but about ‘convergence’ (171)
♣ ‘The relation Weber describes is not a relationship between two systems of ideas, but between a particular belief and a collective mode of conduct’ (172-3)
Marshall
- Gordon Marshall, In Search of the Spirit of Capitalism: An Essay on Max Weber’s Protestant Ethic Thesis, London: Hutchinson, 1982. p.13
o Weber’s argument is ‘empirically so thin that the only reasonable verdict for the moment would be one of ‘not proven’’
Hamilton relevance
- W is no longer relevant. He himself states that there is no longer a link between Prot and capitalism
o W ‘avoids a difficult problem, lack of support, by declaring a conversion, this without any indication of when or where it happened, and without any provision of supporting evidence’ (194)
Hamilton, other reasons
- Hamilton gives a series of historical reasons – separate from Prot ethics – that may explain the economic success of Prot countries
o Early 17th cent: Spain has high tax. Netherlands and England had low-cost and efficient tax arrangements.
o ‘The greater pluralism of the Netherlands and in England, especially after 1688-89, meant more effective input from people with a knowledge of business and commerce.’ (198)
o Netherlands/Germany had a lot of clergy – 6,000 of Cologne’s 40,000 pop. Were clerics. Hence, after Ref when these people were forced into economically productive occupations, a shift in economic growth is expected. (Spitz, Protestant Reformation, pp.50-51)
coleman, macro/micro
o Weber shows the ‘effect of Protestant doctrine (macro level) on individual values (micro level) … What he fails to show is how these individual values (micro level) combine to produce the structure of economic organisation that we call capitalism (macro level)’.
but…hernes
- Hernes argues against Coleman’s criticism, claiming ‘Weber not only demonstrates the effect of doctrine on values and their impact in turn on economic behaviour. Weber constructs a model to provide the psycho-logic at the individual level’ (230)
o Cites Weber’s explanation of how inner loneliness provoked the change in ‘Calvinists’ orientation from social relations to detached, isolated yet devout, work in a calling’ (231)
- Rejects the view that Weber’s argument is unfounded and therefore must be rejected
Logic of argument is sound for Hernes. Weber offers different models of humanity in order to demonstrate his arguments
breiner
- ‘Weber’s narrative… does not function as an historical explanation of the origins of capitalis that can be tested against a body of facts. Rather, it seeks to give a plausible account of how modern capitalism could have arisen… as a byproduct of that agent’s activity’ (241-2)
etzrodt on protestant ethic
‘The Protestant ethic consists basically of two elements: a code of behaviour and a sanction system that compels the believer to adhere to these ethical imperatives. The code of behaviour again demanded two things of the believer: a strict work ethic and asceticism’ (53)
etzrodt challenges to thesis
o ‘The correctness of the interpretation of the Neo-Calvinist teachings and the derivation of Weber’s so-called Protestant ethic can be questioned.’ (58)
o ‘The historical connection between the Protestant ethic and the spirit of modern capitalism can be criticized.’ (58)
o And the creation of modern capitalism (with its manifestation in the Industrial Revolution) in England by this spirit of modern capitalism and other variables such as rational book keeping can be challenged.’ (58)
lipset and bendix
o Only observable difference between RCC and Prots is amongst immigrants of those faiths
♣ ‘The Protestant immigrants come from ethnic groups with high status while the Catholics are members of ethnic groups with low status…Hence the difference between Catholic and Protestant immigrants may be related to ethnic rather than to religious factors’ (22) pp.50-51 in study
McClelland
o Argues that it is difficult to decide which groups of Catholics/Protestants are ‘representative’
o There are examples of Catholic Groups who are superior to Protestants in their sense of drive to achieve.
walzer
o Puritans were more political than economic. Work-ethic was political.
o Views Calvin as putting forward a political, rather than religio-philosophical ideology
o ‘There is no doubt in Walzer’s mind: Calvin must be understood as developing an ideology of political absolutism.’ (417)
o No direct link between a religion of politics and the development of the spirit of capitalism. Rather, it was about the psychological terror that Calvinism procured, which ultimately forced people to worship God.
♣ ‘Puritanism was “really” a theology of repression whose central concern was the coercive imposition of a rigid, domineering conception of moral and social order’ (418)
fischoff on Marx
- ‘That each generation must reinter experience has become almost axiomatic in historiography and the cultural sciences generally. Since Weber’s essay was a conscious reaction to the Marxian hypothesis, it is perhaps natural that it should overstress the consistency and efficacy of ideal factors. It was part of the revolt against the mechanisation of man and the increasing dominance of the economic factor’ (61)
- ‘As against the Marxian doctrine of the economic determinism of social change, Weber propounded a pluralistic interactional theory.’ (62)
fischoff on W aims
- People overestimate W’s aim with his book
o He did not try to produce a ‘complete treatment of the relation between religion and the rise of capitalism’
o ‘The essay was intended as a tentative effort at understanding one of the basic and distinctive aspects of the modern ethos, its professional, specialized character and its sense of calling’ (62)
o wanted to present religion as an important factor not sole cause for the development of capitalism.