Week 11: Late Latency Potentials Flashcards
what are the signal-related late potentials? (2)
N1-P2 and N2
*also known as exogenous
what are the event-related late potentials?
MMN and P3
*also known as endogenous
other terms for exogenous late potentials
- late-latency AEPs
- Late potentials (LPs)
- auditory late responses (ALR)
- slow cortical potentials (SCP)
- vertex potentials
- scalp cortical potential?
- –positive and negative peaks that occur between 50 and 500 ms after onset of the eliciting signals
slow cortical potential waveforms (N1-P2 complex)
- 1962-1972 used clinically and experimentally
- potentials falling at 100 ms and beyond
- –p1 latency is 50 ms and was traditionally included, its presence is a matter of filtering
- P1-N1-P2 sequence occurs within the window of 50-200ms post stimulus
N1 of the N1-P2 complex
large negative wave
- occurs about 80-120 ms after the stimulus
- the largest negative wave in all EPs
P2 of the N1-P2 complex
large positive peak
*occurs around 175-200 ms
N1-P2 or SCP generators
- more difficult to define
- –higher brain centers receiving input from the auditory system
- –most contributions likely from
- —–primary auditory cortex itself
- —–beyond projections to primary auditory cortex
- —–secondary areas
- N1 and P2 generators are different
- –N1 wave primarily in the auditory cortex bilaterally
- –P2 has multiple generators within the polysensory frontal areas
when do you get a robust N1, P2 response
- if the patient state is held constant this will give stable and reliable responses
- a robust response can be recorded with
- –moderate to high intensity which will give a large N1-P2 amplitude over 2 microvolts
- –loong duration (50-200 ms) narrow spectrum stimuli will give frequency specific responses
- these responses are traceable to the limit of perception
how does intensity affect N1-P2 latencies
- for higher intensity stimuli N1-P2 latency is 100 and 200ms respectively
- at lower intensity levels latencies increase slightly
electrode montage for N1-P2
Cz, M2/M1/, Fpz as the ground
*not the Fz amplitude is only 60% of the vertex amplitude
N1-P2 filter settings
1-15 Hz
*can do 30 Hz if 15 is unavailable
N1-P2 epoch
500-1000 ms (the N1-P2 should be within 400 ms)
*250 ms if you want the window to include pre-stimulus
stimulus type for N1-P2
- toneburst
- –can use clicks and pips as well
- 10-20-10 ms (50ms)
- –avoid 100 ms as it can cause onset and offset responses to destructively interfere
number of sweeps/trials for N1-P2
5-20 sweeps per sub-average
- –this number avoids adaptation and is less time consuming
- do 2-3 traces then sum to form grand average
repetition rates for adults and children for N1-P2
- 0.5/1.0/second for adults
- 0.25-0.5/second for children
- –for both randomize if possible
ways to enhance SCP (n1-p2) response
- randomizing other aspects of the stimulus
- –ear being tested
- –test freq or intensity
- pts should be kept alert
- –giving a brief break
- –making them more alert in some other clever way can re-evoke better responses
clinical applications of SVP (n1-p2)
- objective test–passive cooperation (alert) from the patient
- –they must remain quiet and awake, have them do something like read a book during testing and monitor them to ensure they are awake
- useful when the accuracy of the PTA results are in doubt
- –psychogenic cases
- –patients with learning difficulties
- –non-organic HL (military, industrial, occupational)
- responses will be within 10 dB of PTA thresholds
using N1-P2 in medicolegal cases
- the cortical ERA technique is accepted by the british legal system as the definitive test of hearing status
- SCP validates PTA thresholds
how will auditory CNS dysfunction affect N1-P2 responses
- frontal lesion will have no effect on N1 or P2
- tempro-parietal lobe lesions will give poor morphology of wave N1
- auditory plasticity–post implantations means P1 is a good indicator of the extent of neural dys-synchrony that disrupts the cortical development and a good indicator to predict behavioral outcomes in children with ANSD
how to run threshold estimation with N1-P2
- gives frequency specific estimates thresholds
- -supre-threshold responses start at 60 dB HL
- –record at lower intensities until threshold
- –use bracketing technique (20 down, 10 up)
- —–only need to do like 5 sweeps per trace and 3 traces prt freq
how to determine the threshold with N1-P2
- the lowest intensity with a response present
- an interpolation to the nearest 5 dB
- some researchers use a 5 microvolt amplitude criterion
- –if the response is less than this, that is the threshold intensity
- –if greater the threshold is 5 dB lower
masking considerations with N1-P2 threshold estimation
- need to consider masking with the same basis of masking as that is used in conventional PTA
- narrow band noise is preferable if available
what happens with Na-P2 of ‘“poor listeners”?
absent N2
limitations of N1-P2
- maturity
- –an adult threshold estimation test
- –not fully mature until late teens
- –viable for children as young as 8 but have immature response with different morphology
- —–N2 and P3 are often more dominant
- —–a linger ISI (slower) RR is needed
- variability
- –considerable intra and inter subject variability
- susceptibility to subject’s state and drugs
- neuroanatomy
- –is not precisely defined
what event related (Endogenous) potential is rarely used
N400
what is the MMN
- mismatch negativity
- negative component of the auditory event related potential occurring from 100-250 ms after stimulus onset
- occurs after peripheral encoding–a central presentation
- “pre-conscious” response (doesn’t require attention)
- thought to represent detection of stimulus change or “sound discrimination accuracy”
how is the MMN response elicited
- typically by an oddball paradigm
- –a series of identical repeating stimuli (standard or frequency stimuli) is presented with an occasional “target” interspersed amongst the frequency stimuli
- –target is different from frequent stimuli along some dimension
- note responses to frequent and target waveforms are averaged separately
what are the 3 techniques used to “extract” the MMN wave
- target in oddball–frequent in oddball
- target in oddball–target alone
- target in oddball–same target presented as a frequent in another oddball
MMN generators
- supratemporal auditory cortex–major generator
- –primary and secondary auditory cortices
- –adult response=larger over frontocentral electrodes
- frontal and subcortical sources possible
- parallel processor may occur in separate generators