Unjust laws Flashcards
Dyzenhaus
what is his claim
the consequences for practice and for morality if judges adopt positivist ideas in a wicked legal system are unacceptable e.g. South African Legal system
What does Dyzenhaus says about a positivist approach
if you are in anything less than a well functioning democracy, then adopting a positivist approach to judging can be extremely damaging points to apartheid regime in SA
what are plain fact judges
judges interpreted apartheid laws just as the government wanted them interpreted.
the conduct of lawyers and judges in oppressive or otherwise evil governments.
Lawyers and legal scholars have long been intrigued, puzzled, and sometimes embarrassed by the conduct of lawyers and judges in oppressive or otherwise evil governments.
For anyone holding the romantic ideal of the lawyer as someone who stands up to injustice rather than serving as part of it, the widespread participation of lawyers and judges in demonstrably unjust legal systems and political regimes is an uncomfortable fact
David Dyzenhaus, a native South African (now a long time resident of Canada), explored the
role of judges and lawyers in apartheid South Africa.
Under the plain fact view,
a legal rule should be followed, applied, and enforced, even if the official doing the application or enforcement believes that the application or enforcement would produce outcomes that are morally defective, unwise as policy, or inconsistent with the deeper purpose lying behind the rule
under the common law approach, an application of a rule that possesses any of these defects is legitimately an occasion for
an occasion for the applier or enforcer to revise the rule or to refuse to apply or enforce it on this particular occasion
What should common law judges do
adopt interpretative approach to screen out morally repugnant principles
effects of plain fact judges
makes wicked legal system worse than it could be.
Fundamental common law standards
reasonableness, fairness, equality and justice
what happens when common law judges adopt fundamental common law standards
public acceptance of the legitimacy of law
Legal systems do not exist if these are not present
In contrast with plain fact judges, common law judges resist
using law to strengthen govenrment’s oppression
what are sound decisions
those decided in accordance with common law standards
how do common law standards display constitutionality
judges upholding them are a bulwark between citizens and gov
what happens if common law standards are removed
government is governing through arbitrary power, not law
when does indeterminacy arise
disagreement about the context the statute art to be interepreted
administrative lawyers will argue statute should be interpreted in a
plain fact approach
othes will argue statute should be interpreted in a
an interpretative context of certain common law standards
What is a constructive intention?
when judge interprets text in accordance with common law standards
what happens when legislatives diverge largely from common law ideals,
they lack legal and moral authority. Judges can strike them down as illegal
best approach for Dyzenhaus
plain fact judges ignore any kind of wickedness embedded in the statute
Plain fact approach
apply the law without much concern of substantive or moral issues
common law approach
screens out morally repugnant principles by setting the statute in an interpretative context of common law principles
democratic legal positivism
common law is contrary to democracy b/c judicial review or judicial dissent of national security is counter majoritarian since judges are not elected
democratic legal positivism
executives?
executives have expertise in national matters and representative of the people –> receives legitimacy from the the people
Plain fact approach applies law
as it exists and not according to what morality requires
What is in place after 9/11
anti terrorism legislations
What is the problem with terrorist legislations
deprive individual liberty
terrorist legislations target ‘aliens’ -the illegal immigrants, the refugees who had opposed the political regime oftheir native land, people with a different skin colour, homegrown political dissidents, or anyone else who is already marginal or whom powerful groups would prefer to be marginal
the ineliminably vague and political understandings of ‘terrorist’ and ‘national security’ give
executive a wide scope for dealing conveniently with those it considers to be threats.
Secretary of State v Rehman,’
state’s secretary ordered that Rehman be deported from UK b/c it was found he was involved in an Islamic terrorist organisation even tho he would never be violent in UK