Same Kind Of Different Flashcards
First white person i spoke to since i was 15
Miss debbie. When 15 walking in open 1950 ford on we from my aunties He offered help Asked for jack Three boys came and taunted Lady did nothing Boy made noose around neck
Author
Ron hall
Denver moore
Lynn vincent
Denver lived
On plantation 200 acres, pecan trees, in louisianna, cotton fields
Story about boy who whistled
Beattil his eye fell out then tied to a cotton gin and thrown from a bridge
Slavery
Supposedly ended but worked for free, lived in sheck, owned two overalls all in red river parish
Train
Made him dream of places black people got paid….jumped on and went to fort worth texas
Couldnt read write was homeless alot til he met n
Miss debbie nosiest skinniest woman he ever met
We meet hall on a
Tarmac near a mercedes with okeefe paintings
Hall
Used to sell campbells soup, then was a banker now an art dealer. Low middle class to upper.
Hall didnt hang alot of art in place
Because of the derelicts…they probably came in to et out of heat but hall was afraid they were casing it..had smash and grab of cash and jewelry a few days later….fixed his idea of homeless people
Denvers nickname
Lil buddy because pawpaw carried him around. Mom was too young
Family structure in bayou
Different varied extended because they were poor. Rare nuclear family.
Sharecropper
Man owned land Letyou use Buy seed and clothes from him on credit You work free Share half profit with man Man only one that can weigh cotton Man owned land and you
Roosevelt
White people said he was trying to make things better for blacks
Cold would stick its hand up
Through floor
Sick
Big
Eight flour sack dresses
Bigmama
Denvers grandma
Denvers first tragedy
At six, big mama wentto bed after getting two red devil pills cause her legs gave her fits, cat jumped and meowed could see smoke
Shooed cat Went to bigmama No flames Pawpaw at work Work bro thurman Hit him Chimney and roof on fire Back to bigmama Roof ready to cave He crawled to backdoor Hear her wake up cough pray when roof fell in
In the 50s the social order of the south
Was lie charcoal in snow Plain to the eye Blacks had their own area niggertown Many worked for halls grandaddy Nice folks lived there Nigger bill Nigger moses
No real names
No checks
No forms
Didnt own shotgun houses
Whaat lived under shotgun houses
Mongrel dogs
Workers would board trucks
To work cotton field, grandady would buy lunch with marked canteens to drink eat on floor
White workers
Gathered for dinner at the house, white black got paid same and he made loans to blacks who paid them back
Denver went to live with
Beebee his dad who had a car also heavyset and was popular with ladies
Beebee didnt go to church
Because two of his girlfriends and husbands were there. Beebee would listen with kids from car outside .
Preacher delivery
From lulluby to full sweat
Offering plate
Would come out the window
Bebe never came back because
Car broke down
Or
Car was sabotauged
Man stabbed him out of woods
Might have been a husband
They then went
With uncle janes in a wagon
New kind of slave
Sharecropper
Two massas
One who owned land
One who owned store
Always in hole
James moved
To plantation from sharecropping
Uncle james mule named
Jennie
When working the brothers
Planting seeds
Looking for army worms
Worked with uncle and aunt
Women cooked inside men cooked whisky in woods
Who moonshined
White and black people
Cook possum
Burn hair off
Boil him get grease out
No store just for salt and pepper
Food came from woods or ground
Where did you get cornbread
Put corn thru mill get meal and put on bill
Christmas gift
Two pigs to hang in smokehouse nothing went to waste
From rooter to tooter
Eat anything but skunk
Uncle james whip
With a switch from a pecan tree for visiting a girl
Black religion
Baptist and social center of every plantation
Field hand would drive everyone in a wagon
To baptist church
Preacher
Brother brown the field hand could read bible
When denver was 12
He was dressed in white and dunked in the river with 4 other baptized and had dinner on the ground… Srange to be in water in clothes because he usually swam naked
What did he look for during baptism
Gators … Sunk to the bottom and didnt know he was supposed to come back up he popped up down river
What happened to uncle james
He died and aunt effa moved away the boys got split up and he moved with his sister or auntie not sure where brother went
Dont need no calendar
You only gotta be where you gotta be
White boys ambushed
Black boys using logs to cross river to get to school. Told them to wade. Had stick rock war. White boys won.
Keep eyes down
To avoid confrontation.
White boys
Hung him in noose horses dragging by saddle
Who drove by
Plantation wife with a car and shotgun drove him to aunties in bed a week….thre him off a little in life
Deborah and rons religion was
Methodists on sundays until 1973 for a six week discussion group on life because they were seen as nonbelievers. No fish on bumper
Where was discussion group
Mccoys with 20 couples …. Saved and saved not.
Addressed group on existence, death etc
Kirby coleman
Are you sure you are going to heaven
By daddy paved the church parking lot
Who said lets pray sinners prayer
Ron
Who cross-examined gospel
Deborah then she payed the prayer too
Even with 500 bifocals
I can not see inside hearts
3 or 4 close plantations with different men one gave him
A shack and outhouse
Lower than a sharecropper
Crack
Children of croppers who just stayed for place to live
Before slaves were freed plantations were self sufficient and had training
Now could only work land and tractors dried that up
Plantation owner didnt share
Information on Schooling Trading Army Radio Telephone Electricity Running water
Fell through a crack in time in louisianna
Thurman was in
California and a 27 28 year old brother jumps a train to see him….still owe for overalls
When he was 32 in 1977, the art dealer
Paid 275000 for a williamsburg colonial in fort worth
Supportive wife
Charity auctions 1000 plate
Deborah couldnt wrap head around decorations and dres
Art dealer travels to
New york Paris Florence Skiing Wine
Moved to million dollar house knocked it down had convertible in Dallas
Cars
Armani suits
Deborah plugged into god in ministry with aids babies
Deb and ron had separate loves
His success, maybe art money
Hers to know god maybe children
Billy graham rule
Never be alone with woman whois not your wife
Ron met painter. White wine. She was looking for career help. Not his wit. Beverly hills painter
Only saw her twice then told deb.
How did deb findout
He told friend
Friend told wife
Wife said you tell or i will
Ron blamed
Her disinterest.
After meeting with pastor
They agreed to work things out
What did deb do
Call mistress and forgave her then promised to be a better wife and rewrite future history but they had to go to counseling
First train stop
Dallas first time out of state. Railroad police came. Jumped trains. We to fort worth than California where he was always in trouble. Hard to find work.
Hobo heaven
Fort worth
Get grub scraping up dollar
Coat tie type give quick dollar
Others wAnt to help
Why want a dollar
Hamburger drop
What is a hamburger drop
Stick wrapped burger in trash, pick up eat, someone gives you money for eTing your own garbage…enough for decent meal
Antifreeze for homeless
Jim beam
Where good bath
Fort worth water garden….afternoon pretend to push one in …. Soap up under water. Climb up bake dry in sun like anials in woods trying to survive.