religious language- positive and negative Flashcards

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problem of religious language

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god beyond human understanding so how can we talk about something we dont understand

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via negative

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apophatic way
-argues since we cant understand god the only meaningful way to talk about god is to say what god is not

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aquinas theory of analogy

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cataphatic
argues that although we cant know god or say what god is we can talk about what god is like

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tillichs symbolic approach

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claims that religious language doesnt try to refer to god but connects our minds to god

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what did pseudo dionyisus argue

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since god completely beyond our understanding we cannot talk about god
-god is beyond every assertion
he can not be describes in positive ways

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via negative way

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apophatic way

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purpose of via negative

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he doesnt mean privation
saying god is darkness doesnt mean god is light
-just means we are accepting god is beyond the light/darkness distinction

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quote from pseudo dionysius

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there is no speaking of it nor name nor knowledge of it
-it is beyond assertion and denial

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idea of knowing god by knowing nothing

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trying to understand god is counterproductive because it separates us from god

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pseudo dionysius giving example of moses

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as he was ascending to mount sinai he was plunged into darkness of unknowing renouncing all that the mind may conceive

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benefits of using the negative

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helps us break free from grasping knowledge of god
causes inactivity of all knowledge to supreme being

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link with our desire to know god and the theme of the fall

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adam and eves disobedience and separation from god caused by their egocentric desire for knowledge

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strength of unity from psuedo

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unity with divine being centre of religious experience universally attested by mystics like st theresa of avila

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whats the main strength of via negative

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its true to gods transcendence
Otto called god wholly other
augustine comments on whether we can comprehend god or not

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via negative in helping us understand the bible

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it helps us understand descriptions of gods immanence
mainomdenies argues positive descriptions of god should be interpreted to be referring to gods immanence

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via negative on gods transcendence

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gods actual but unknowable being which can only be describes negatively

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via negativa on gods immanence

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gods actions in the physical world which can be describes positively
-what all biblical language about refers to

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the bible describes god in positive terms as weakness of via negative

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god having face or walking in garden of eden- these can be seen as metaphorical
-however gospel of john- god is love, god is spirit
-positive language about god is valid

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evaluation defending via negative

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bible written in limited human language
must use careful intepretation
maimonides says descriptions of god in bible of his actions
augustine says they are metaphorical human expressions

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evaluation criticizing via negative

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bible doesnt describe gods actions only but gods nature and personality
hard to interpret references to gods actions but personality easier

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strength- maiomonides ship example

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some knows ship exists but doesnt know what it is
-using negative attributes can help person conclude its a ship

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brian davies criticism of maimondenies

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negative language works when we know what possibilities for thing are
-eg- person not left handed and not ambidexterous- right handed
-god not like that
-doesnt give us further knowledge of god

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evaluation defending via negative from brian davies

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pseudo dionysius more succesful
-via negative works by shutting down out attempt to intelectually grasp god
-this knowledge gets in way of knowing god through unity with god

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evaluation criticizing via negativa to brian davies

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davies criticism success because ship example fails
-only get closer to describing what ship is if we know what ship is
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strength of via negative- avoids anthpromophising

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god imagined in human terms- sometimes due to religious art
helps christians avoid mistaken view of god

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weakness of via negatuve- aquinas rejection of via negativa in everyday christian menaing

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-via negativa not how most people talk about god
-bible not consistent with via negativa
-exodus- i am your god- jealous god
-analogy of attribution and proportion work better for everyday

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evaluation defending via negative form aquinas

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weakness unsuccess because pseudo- dionysius says unity with god gained once attempt to know god through reason let go
-spirituality strengthened once we give up on rational conception of god
-average christian wont think of language to be analogical
-aquinas hasnt captured role in peoples spiritual lives

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evaluation criticizing via negative form aquinas

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aquinas analogy of peoportion and attribution things christians accept
-they accept description is within human understanding

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univocal language with why standard cataphatic way fails

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attempting to say what god is by applying human concepts- words have one meaning
-fails because god beyond out understanding so we cant use same word for god

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equivocal language and why opposite approach also fails

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god is loving but know loving different than saying humans are loving
-fails because since we dont know what god is we dont know what loving means when applied to god- meaningless

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what does aquinas say we are relative to god

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genesis- made in likeness of god
-we are like god- analagous to god

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analogy of attribution

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we can attribute qualities to creation of a thing that are analagous to those if its creation
-urine of bull means bull has analagous quality of health even is we cant see bull

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analogy of proportion

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being has quality relative to its being
-gods love like ours but proportionally greater

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strength of aquinas analogy theorys basis in natural theology

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human reason can gain lesser knowledge of god including gods nature by analogy
-on basis of reasoning he concluded we can meaningfully talk about gods qualities by analogy

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weakness of aquinas analogy theory basis in natural theology

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-natural theology over relies on human reaosn
Barth- and augustine- after fall reason corrupted by original sin
-finite minds cannot grasp infinite god
-after fall- reason cannot reach gods morality
-only faith in gods revelation in bible valid

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evaluation defending aquinas theory of analogy in natural theology

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barths argument fails- doesnt address aquinas point out reason not always corrupted
-with gods grace- reason can discover knowledge of god
-analogies valid use of human reasoning to figure out what we can say about god

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evaluation criticizing aquinas analogy in natural theology

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-barth right that bad in out nature means we cannot rely in the good
-humanities belief it can know anything same arrogance of adam and eve
-arrogance evident in natural theology
-not humble enough to rely on faith

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strength aquinas analogy avouds problems of cataphatic by finding middle ground

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univocal and equivocal language both fail
-biblically supported we are made in likeness of god so theory of analogy works

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weakness of aquinas middle ground- accuracy problem

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brummer objects
-says analogy of proportion works
-we are saying god is not loving like humans but we cant say what way god is loving
-just like via negativa
-arrtibution tells us god source of human qualities but cant tell us what way god has those qualities

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evaluation defending analogy from brummer

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we might know know in what way gods qualities are like ours
-we can know they they are alike
-brummer misunderstands aquinas approach
-we know gods qualities are like ours
-not much but something so success form of via positiva

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evaluation criticizing analogy from brummer

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brummer success because analogies only meaningful if we know both things being analogised
-electricity behaves like water -know what they share and dont
-for god we dont have required knowledge for analogy

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what does tillich say about how RL should be

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cannot be literal as god beyond out understanding
-symbolic

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key points of RL for tillich

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religious symbols out of culture and collective minds of religious tradition
-makes symbols part of religion
-signs point but symbols participate in what they point to

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tillichs example of national flag

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flag participates in power and dignity of a nation
-seeing flag mentally connects citizen to their country

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whats the function of religious symbol according to tillich

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spiritually connect people to religious dimension of reality

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whats the meaning of RL for tlillich

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spiritual connection to god it inspired through symbolic participation in being of god

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whats does tillich call god

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ground of being
-word god symbol for ground of being

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4 elements of tillichs theory of participation

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-points to something beyond itself
-symbolic language participates in what it points to
-symbolic unlocks deeper reality/ meaning
-symbols open up dimensions of soul that correspond to levels of reality

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main strength of tillichs theory

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side steps meaning issue of our human inability to understand god
-does this by suggesting RL is symbolic which points to god
-participates in god
-opens up spiritual levels of reality which connect to dimensions of our soul
-connects humans souls to god without needing to undertand god

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strength tilluchs theory captures spiritual side of RL

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-example of crucifix when praying
-most important elements of religious language spiritual feelings it evokes not cold facts

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weakness of tillich william alston

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christian doctrines like heaven and hell must be factual not symbolic
-RL cant be merely symbolic
-christians tend to think when using RL they express beliefs about god which can be true or false
cognitivism key element of RL meaning

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evaluation defending tillich from william

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religion human impulse to something higher thats limited to us
-not factual of scientific
-tillichs right to refocus christianity spiritually
-Rl doesnt need to be factual but needs to participate in being itself bridge souls to our own participation in it

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evaluation criticizing tillich from wiliam

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alston and hicks critique success because it shows tillich goes to far in reducing all RL to symbols
-factual doctrines important for christians just as symbols are
-tillich fails to approach cognitive element of religion

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strength tillich solves problem of RL

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we dont need to understand god to connect spiritually with symbols

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weakness of tillich subjectivity and vagueness of participation

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hick argues flag illustration doesnt show how participation works
-not clear how religious sumbols participate in ground of being in same way as flag
-reduction of and god and religion to human feelings
-to vagye

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evaluation defending tillich from hick

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objection unsuccess because his theory connective to objective
-when we use symbolic RL we express personal subjective faith
-we also make objective faith of act through our souls connecting to spiritual levels of reality

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evaluation criticizing tillich from hick

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critique success- criticism as RE- purely subjective
-personal subjective experience cannot be basis for shared intersubjective meaning in religious language

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randalls theory of symbolic religious language

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function to arouse emotion
-stimulate cooperative action
-comminicate aspects that cant be expressed with literal language
-evoke human experience with divine

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strength of randalls- randal more success than tillichs

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-randall accepts symbols completely subjective and symbolic language is non cognitive
-accepts symbols completely subjective

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weakness of randal non -cognivitism not traditonal

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-issue that non cognitive RL cannot express factual statements
-some would argue religious more than human experience- about reality and RL must be cognitive

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evaluation defending randall

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non traditional doesnt mean wrong
-randall part of protestant movement influenced by schleiermacher- religion about human experience and cognitive aspect secondary
-influenced by existentialism
-Religious meaning of and in human experience which is most important for theory of RL to capture