religious language- positive and negative Flashcards
problem of religious language
god beyond human understanding so how can we talk about something we dont understand
via negative
apophatic way
-argues since we cant understand god the only meaningful way to talk about god is to say what god is not
aquinas theory of analogy
cataphatic
argues that although we cant know god or say what god is we can talk about what god is like
tillichs symbolic approach
claims that religious language doesnt try to refer to god but connects our minds to god
what did pseudo dionyisus argue
since god completely beyond our understanding we cannot talk about god
-god is beyond every assertion
he can not be describes in positive ways
via negative way
apophatic way
purpose of via negative
he doesnt mean privation
saying god is darkness doesnt mean god is light
-just means we are accepting god is beyond the light/darkness distinction
quote from pseudo dionysius
there is no speaking of it nor name nor knowledge of it
-it is beyond assertion and denial
idea of knowing god by knowing nothing
trying to understand god is counterproductive because it separates us from god
pseudo dionysius giving example of moses
as he was ascending to mount sinai he was plunged into darkness of unknowing renouncing all that the mind may conceive
benefits of using the negative
helps us break free from grasping knowledge of god
causes inactivity of all knowledge to supreme being
link with our desire to know god and the theme of the fall
adam and eves disobedience and separation from god caused by their egocentric desire for knowledge
strength of unity from psuedo
unity with divine being centre of religious experience universally attested by mystics like st theresa of avila
whats the main strength of via negative
its true to gods transcendence
Otto called god wholly other
augustine comments on whether we can comprehend god or not
via negative in helping us understand the bible
it helps us understand descriptions of gods immanence
mainomdenies argues positive descriptions of god should be interpreted to be referring to gods immanence
via negative on gods transcendence
gods actual but unknowable being which can only be describes negatively
via negativa on gods immanence
gods actions in the physical world which can be describes positively
-what all biblical language about refers to
the bible describes god in positive terms as weakness of via negative
god having face or walking in garden of eden- these can be seen as metaphorical
-however gospel of john- god is love, god is spirit
-positive language about god is valid
evaluation defending via negative
bible written in limited human language
must use careful intepretation
maimonides says descriptions of god in bible of his actions
augustine says they are metaphorical human expressions
evaluation criticizing via negative
bible doesnt describe gods actions only but gods nature and personality
hard to interpret references to gods actions but personality easier
strength- maiomonides ship example
some knows ship exists but doesnt know what it is
-using negative attributes can help person conclude its a ship
brian davies criticism of maimondenies
negative language works when we know what possibilities for thing are
-eg- person not left handed and not ambidexterous- right handed
-god not like that
-doesnt give us further knowledge of god
evaluation defending via negative from brian davies
pseudo dionysius more succesful
-via negative works by shutting down out attempt to intelectually grasp god
-this knowledge gets in way of knowing god through unity with god
evaluation criticizing via negativa to brian davies
davies criticism success because ship example fails
-only get closer to describing what ship is if we know what ship is
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