Problem of interaction and other minds Flashcards
What is the problem of interaction ?
How does a mental substance, which is not in space and has no physical force , can affect a physical substance, which is in space and moved by physical forces ?
Who is this debate between ?
Elizabeth of Bohemia
And
Descartes
What are the two types of issues that interactionist dualism raises
Conceptual issues
And
Empirical issues
What is Elizabeth Stuart’s conceptual problem with substance dualism ?
1 all physical events have physical causes
2 if dualism is true then the mind is not extended and cannot exert physical force or cause the body to move
3 therefore either dualism is false or the mind cannot cause the body to live
4 the mind can cause the body to move
5 dualism is false
Substance dualism therefore fails as it sees the mind as a non physical substance
How does Descartes respond to the conceptual problem ?
How does Elizabeth respond ?
What does Descartes say back ?
Evaluation !!!
1 not all physical events have physical causes
2 there is a unique kind of cause an effect with mind and body causation
3 this is not the same as physical causation and cannot be compared
Therefore the non physical mind can have physical causes as there is the exception of body mind causation
Substance dualism still stands
Elizabeth Stuart asks to know more of mind and body causation
Descartes responds by saying it is a basic truth of the universe and cannot possibly be explained as it just is
Evaluation - Descartes response is unsuccessful as he reverts back to his idea in the conceivability criticism of the mind/body separation being inconceivably , of just really being certain of something. He offers no further explanation of why mind and body causation is unique which is necessary
What is the empirical problem.
1 if the mind as a non physical substance could move the body then the total amount of energy in the universe would increase
2 therefore the law of conservation of energy would not apply to the universe
3 therefore either Descartes is incorrect or because what is changing the physical energy in the universe is non physical , physics cannot give a correct and complete account of physical energy in the universe
Descartes in saying that the mind (a non physical substance) can cause the body (a physical substance) to move suggesting that energy is created
Descartes argument contradicts the law of conservation which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transferred
What is the second empirical problem ?
There is no scientific evidence to support interaction .
There is no test you can do to show it, it is not verifiable and therefore meaningless
How may Descartes respond to the empirical problem ?
Evaluation ?
He may say that the law of conservation is just a strong inductive argument with evidence but not concrete proof
Evaluation
Also it is not certain , some evidence is provided compared to Descartes interaction. Physics is more convincing
What is interactionist dualism ?
Dualist idea that the mind and body have to be separate to interact
The mind can cause the physical body to move and physical events can cause thoughts
Which philosophical thinker should you mention when discussing the problem of other minds ?
Anita Avramides
What kind of problem is the problem of other minds
An epistemological problem relating to our knowledge - Anita Avramides
What is the problem of other minds
Substance dualists say that our bodies are connected to our minds (which are apart from the physical world) and the only way we can interact with others is on a physical level.
There is no empirical test that can do to establish that any minds exist apart from our own
Therefore we cannot prove anyone else has a mind
Strong deductive argument
1 if substance dualism is true, then we cannot know the mental states of others
2 we do on at least some occasions know the mental states of others
3 therefore substance dualism is false
What is the threat of solipsism?
How might this derive from the problem of other minds ?
The view that only your mind exists
This is a controversial and problematic stance that goes against our basic intuitions and is seen as problematic by philosophers as being ‘too skeptical’
By the insinuation that the mind is not part of the physical world, substance dualists may be vulnerable to the trap of solipsism
Problem of other minds could lead to this conclusion as if you cannot prove there are other minds , this could lead to the conclusion that only your mind exists
Who responds to the problem of other minds
John Stuart Mill
How does Anita Avtamides say about the problem of other minds ?
It’s an epistemological problem as it relates to our knowledge