ontological argument Flashcards
st anselm
PRIORI
god is greatest
greater to exist in reality than mind
god exists in mind
therefore go must exist in reality
if existed in mind alone he wouldn’t be greatest as we can conceive something greater
painter
they have idea of what they will paint in their mind before painting it
shows ideas can exist in mind
psalm 14:1
’ the fool says in his heart, “ there is no god”’
do not believe in god but has an idea of god in mind
gaunilo
objects to p3
premise of greatest thing exists in the mind/ understanding
god is beyond understanding (christian premise) therefore cannot be in understanding
doubts we can even understand greatest conceivable being
weaknesses
relies on ability to understand/ reason about things beyond our understanding/ reason
gaunilo- denies OA is valid deductive argument
- attacks inference from premise to concl of god existing in reality
priori can use invalid logic
aquinas
gods nature- eternal law- is beyond our understanding
people have different understandings of god
against gaunilo
criticism failed
dont need to fully understand greatest conceivable being for onto arg to work
cannot compare god and island
god has intrinsic maxima island doesnt
overload
cannot give physical thing unlimited attribute
island analogy
reductio ad absurdum
‘overload’ objection- reality would be overloaded with greatest/ perfect things
descartes
idea of supremely perfect being
existence is perfection
god exists
- existence can be known intuitively, no reasoning needed
Kant objection
existence being a predicate of god does not establish existence in reality
reply to kant
his objection is self contradictory
seems to accept OA shows gods necessary existence
incoherent to grant NE and maintain poss that god is non existent
necessary existence is indeed a predicate of god
proslogion 3
justifies premise of necessary existence
can think of something that cant be thought of as not existing
would be greater than something that could be thought of as not existing
god exists undoubtedly that he cannot be thought of as not existing