FFP - LOFTS Flashcards
During BISP members saw a hose header at the Loft building being inspected and asked what it is. You would be incorrect to state?
A) Generally located inside below grade toward the front of the building.
B) If to be used as an inlet, an interior valve must manually be opened.
C) It has multiple valve outlets
D) When operating properly it uses water from the fire pump
A) Generally located inside below grade toward the front of the building (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts pg 1)
- Hose Headers generally located on the EXTERIOR WALL OF
BUILDING.
A fire tower may be found in which types of Loft Buildings?
A) Older cast-iron
B) Newer cast-iron
C) Mill
D) Fireproof
C) Mill
D) Fireproof
(FFP Lofts, 5.3.5)
- Fire towers are smoke proof, non combustible stairway enclosures that give occupants a smoke free egress to the street. Fire towers are ideal for FDNY use as evacuation stairways, however they should not be used as an attack stairway.
- Fire Towers are found in Mill and Fireproof types of Loft buildings.
Which type of Loft building is incorrectly described?
A) Older cast iron - 1840s to 1870s, frontage 25-50’ max 7-8 stories
B) Newer cast iron - 1880s to 1901, frontage usually 50’, 8-12 stories
C) Mill - Heavy timber, 2 exterior load bearing walls, elevators at
perimeter.
D) Fireproof - 10 to 15 stories,enclosed int stairs,may span entire block.
C) Mill - Heavy timber, 2 exterior load bearing walls, elevators at
perimeter. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 2.2, 4.1.1)
- Mill - FOUR (4) EXTERIOR WALLS LOAD BEARING
Which glossary term is not correct in regards to Loft Buildings?
A) Pediment = a wide, low pitched gable surmounting the facade of a
building, may be found over windows.
B) Saw Tooth Roof = a roof design utilizing parallel roof sections to
disperse natural light throughout the interior of the
building.
C) Wall manifold = outlets on an exterior wall supplied by a fire
department pumper.
D) Deadlights = fixed glass segments imbedded in cast iron frames or
masonry to provide natural light for sidewalk vaults.
C) Wall manifold = outlets on an exterior wall supplied by a fire department pumper. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts Glossary)
- Outlets on an exterior wall supplied by a GRAVITY TANK, PRESSURE
TANK OR OTHER WATER SOURCE FOR BUILDING.
Which is not an accurate statement about sidewalk vaults in regards to Loft Buildings?
A) They are a four wall enclosure under the front sidewalk.
B) A granite stone covering the vault to the curb line indicates a “full” (building to curb) vault.
C) Generally supported by wrought iron I-Beams or cast iron structural members.
D) Originally built with small Deadlights for natural light to enter the cellar.
A) They are a four wall enclosure under the front sidewalk. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 5.1.1)
- They are THREE (3) wall enclosures.
While drilling with the newly assigned proby about Engine operations at Loft building fires you made the following statements. Which one was correct?
A) Depending on fire conditions an 1 3/4” or 2 1/2” line may be the initial line stretched.
B) The 2nd handline should be immediately stretched to the floor above unless the Officer of the first hose line indicates they can’t hold the fire with one line.
C) The deck pipe from the Engine should not be used on advanced fires due to the possibility of the master stream dislodging an interior cast iron column.
D) If a backdraft condition exists and vertical ventilation is not possible, position the hoseline with firefighters to the side of the entrance, immediately open the line when the fire area is accessed.
D) If a backdraft condition exists and vertical ventilation is not possible, position the hoseline with firefighters to the side of the entrance, immediately open the line when the fire area is accessed.
(FFP Lofts 6.1.1)
A - 2 1/2” line should be initial line (NOT 1 3/4”)
B - 2nd line usually stretched up interior stairs to SAME FLOOR as the
first line.
C - For advanced fires, a quick knockdown using the deck pipe WILL
ALLOW FOR a rapid interior attack once the line is in position.
D - Correct
Which is incorrect about the sprinkler systems at Loft Buildings?
A) Although rare, perforated pipe systems may be found.
B) The 2nd Engine supplies the sprinkler Siamese if not already done at a cellar fire in a cast-iron loft building.
C) Automatic sprinklers will always have a Siamese for augmentation.
D) Section valves for the upper floors sprinkler system may be found on each floor.
C) Automatic sprinklers will always have a Siamese for augmentation. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 6.1.9)
- Automatic sprinklers MAY NOT HAVE A SIAMESE.
Which is not a correct statement about mill lofts?
A) Wooden girders are at least 8” thick
B) Exposed wood joists support 3” tongue and groove or 3-4” wood planks.
C) Control panels, shit off valves & meters are located on the lowest level of the building.
D) Walls have built in sockets to accept floor girders and joists.
A) Wooden girders are at least 8” thick (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 4.3.1)
- Wood girders are SIX INCHES (6”)
Which is incorrect about older cast-iron Lofts?
A) Interior support columns of cast-iron, wrought iron, brick or wood
B) Some buildings have a cockloft
C) One unenclosed stairway that is either straight run or wraps around the elevator.
D) If frontage is 25’ there will often be a cast iron interior column
D) If frontage is 25’ there will often be a cast iron interior column (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 4.1)
- 25’ frontage indicates NO CAST IRON INTERIOR COLUMNS.
At a study group the topic of newer cast iron Loft buildings came up. Which is incorrect?
A) Generally larger than the older cast-iron, with frontage from 50-100’
B) Usually 2 interior stairs
C) Generally only one interior stairway is enclosed
D) Various types of fire escapes may be found on any side of the building.
C) Generally only one interior stairway is enclosed (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 4.2.1)
- Generally there are TWO (2) ENCLOSED INT. STAIRS.
Select the incorrect statement about Mill Loft buildings?
A) High ceilings were eliminated or largely reduced
B) Skylights an monitors were built into ceilings to provide sunlight to top floor.
C) Frontage of 100’ to 150’
D) Walls will have built in sockets to accept floor girders
A) High ceilings were eliminated or largely reduced (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 2.2)
- High ceilings are CHARACTERISTIC OF MILL LOFTS.
Members of Ladder 93 were discussing operations at loft building fires. Which is incorrect?
A) Avoid placing portable and aerial ladders to windows with a “shaft way” sign.
B) After completing laddering duties at Mill Loft cellar fires, the first two LCCs should open up sidewalk access points.
C) Roof access at a cast-iron building fire is via adjoining building or remote interior stairway.
D) The 2nd arriving LCC for a lower floor Mill Loft fire should intitially assist the first LCC.
C) Roof access at a cast-iron building fire is via adjoining building or remote interior stairway. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 5.1.2, 7.2.1)
- Roof access at cast-iron lofts
- Adjoining building
- Aerial or TL Ladder
- Fire escape
The elevators in older cast iron Loft buildings have characteristics slightly different then we are accustomed to in newer residential and commercial buildings. Which is an incorrect characteristic?
A) Freight elevators will not be installed with fireman service capabilities.
B) Some passenger elevators may be flush with the front of the building facade and entered directly off the sidewalk.
C) Elevator doors look like apartment doors in many loft buildings.
D) Freight elevator shafts were frequently built using terra cotta tile which is difficult to breach.
D) Freight elevator shafts were frequently built using terra cotta tile which is difficult to breach. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 5.1.10)
- Terra cotta CAN BE READILY BREACHED if needed.
There is a myth in the fire service about the effect that water will have on a heated cast-iron column in a Loft building. Which statement below about cast-iron columns is true?
A) Cast-iron columns cast improperly are inherent weak links, there is a reliable (but expensive) method to determine if a column was properly cast.
B) If an improperly cast column is cooled by a hoseline it can contract disproportionately leading to potential failure.
C) These columns were designed to withstand an eccentric load
D) When a heated column is cooled by a hose line it will regain its strength.
B) If an improperly cast column is cooled by a hoseline it can contract disproportionately leading to potential failure.
(FFP Lofts 5.1)
A - There is NO reliable way to know if column was cast properly.
B - Correct
C - These columns are NOT DESIGNED to withstand an eccentric load.
D - There’s a myth in the fire department that a cast iron column
exposed to fire will shatter when cooled by a hoseline. An
improperly cast column, however, will contract when cooled and
could possibly fail. STRENGTH LOST IS CUMULATIVE and it is
never regained.
Segmental arch floors are found in newer Cast Iron Loft buildings and have a collapse potential. Which statement is incorrect?
A) Segmental arch floors should not be breached for fear of causing a
general floor collapse.
B) Segmental arch floors exposed to fire can spall violently, but will not
fail, when struck by water from a hoseline.
C) Indiscriminate overhauling on the underside of segmental arch floors
can cause a localized collapse.
D) In newer cast iron buildings the hose line should not be operated
overhead due to the segmental arch floor and fear of collapse.
B) Segmental arch floors exposed to fire can spall violently, but will not
fail, when stuck by water from a hoseline. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 5.2.1)
- They can spall violently AND POSSIBLY FAIL when struck by water.
Members of truck were discussing general tactics and procedures outlined in the recently published loft bulletin. However, a statement made by one of the middle management firefighters did not comply with this bulletin. Which choice is incorrect?
A) Pediments must be avoided when positioning apparatus ladders due to uneven contact points and the prohibitive distance from the ladder to the roof surface. Small pediments situated over windows may also be found.
B) Cast iron lofts may have up to 4 doorways fronting the street.
C) Indiscriminate overhauling on the underside of the segmental arch floors can cause a complete building collapse.
D) Segmental arch floors exposed to fire can spall violently and possibly fail when stuck by water from a hoseline below. Do not operate the stream directly overhead.
C) Indiscriminate overhauling on the underside of the segmental arch floors can cause a complete building collapse. (INCORRECT)
(FFP Lofts 7.1.19)
- This can cause a LOCALIZED collapse.