Are corporate or individual RE more reliable - RE Flashcards
INTRO - define
Corporate: an experience said to be felt by numerous people; individually
INTRO - define both sides of the debate
Corporate less reliable as more prone to mass hysteria – James’ criteria for a legitimate religious experience that ‘passivity’’ transience’ ‘life long change’ – necessary harder to access
INTRO - position
Neither individual or corporate can accurately and convincingly be considered more valid. Need to focus instead on whether meaningful to the believer as all interpret the world differently
Section 1: theme
Corporate: Some may argue that corporate experiences are far more reliable than individual experiences, as a multitude of people experiencing the (supposedly) same thing arguably gives greater wait to the claim
Section 1: AO1
CORPORATE
Corporate experiences arguably more reliable than individual, as a multitude of people are claiming to experience the same thing e.g. Toronto Blessing, “holy laughter”, barking, all seen as signs of the presence of the holy spirit
Section 1: AO2 FOR
CORPORATE
Swinburne: Principle of Credulity/ Testimony – “what one perceives is probably so”
-People should be believed if they have said they’ve had an experience
-This is a logical assertion to make, since reliance on the senses has been instrumental to our functioning for centuries
Section 1: AO2 AGAINST
CORPORATE
Critics suggest that people attracted to evangelical worship are pre-disposed to behaviour such as mass hysteria
-Experience more of a group hallucination brought by the atmosphere of the Church
-Why would God make people bark like Dogs
Corporate situations undeniable that people will be influenced by ideas of conformity – proven in psychological experiments such as people standing in the wrong direction on a lift because other people are
-Influence and desire to conform and ‘see’ God
-Weakens idea they’ve had a genuine experience
-Swinburne’s idea better applied to people who are free from outside influences
Section 1: AO2 CONCLUSION
CORPORATE
Corporate not reliable as more prone to extrinsic pressures
Section 2: theme
Individual – are they free from outside influence
Section 2: AO1
INDIVIDUAL
Individual free from outside influence seems dubious: The psychological challenge - Freud its chief proponent - asserts that religious experiences are no more than illusions constructed by the psyche most fundamentally to satisfy neuroses
Section 2: AO2 FOR
INDIVIDUAL
Only experiences worthy are as James put it ‘passive’ experiences and not willed by the individual, contrary to the assertions made by Freud. Equally experiences are ineffable, meaning the recipient cannot articulate their feeling of the transcendent or divine
Swinburne only trust testimony if we know that person would have no reason to experience the RE
-Drugs and alcohol would discount this
-Individual are more preferable to corporate of authentic
Section 2: AO2 AGAINST
INDIVIDUAL
Russell “if you fast, you see snakes, and if you drink you see God.”
-People can be under pressure from alcohol or drugs when they claim to ‘see’ God
-Place doubt on the testimony of the RE
Psychological R.M Hare all have ‘bliks’ unfalsifiable truths which influence how we see the world
-Holland’s train when mother says it was an act of God that her son was not run over by a train when in fact the driver just had a heart attack
-If someone wants to believe in something they will
Section 2: AO2 CONCLUSION
INDIVIDUAL
Cannot be said with full certainty that that individual experiences are not influenced by psychological factors
Section 3: Theme
Impact on the individual
Section 3: AO1
IMPACT
Yet ultimately it must be argued that the epistemological problem of other minds means one cannot prove nor disprove the validity of a religious experience; instead, experiences should be judged in accordance to their impacts and value for the individual(s