Are conversion experiences reliable - RE Flashcards
INTRO - Define
Conversion - changing one religious position to another
INTRO - define both sides of the debate
Life-changing and effects the person ; little/no empirical evidence can be reduced to other more believable explanations
Section 1: theme
Psychologically willed by the individual
Section 1: AO1
PSYCHOLOGICALLY WILLED
There are certainly those who might argue that life being altered indicates a higher power.
Often an experience in which a person alters their life from one set of convictions to another, indeed suggests the existence of a higher power - the fact someone has been altered, suggests the experience was profound and powerful e.g. St Paul on the road to Damascus
Section 1: AO2 FOR
PSYCHOLOGICALLY WILLED
James RE are ‘passive’ and this elevates the credibility of the experience as it is not willed by the individual contrary to the assertions made by the likes of Freud. Equally experiences are ineffable, meaning the recipient cannot articulate their feeling of the transcendent or divine
Noetic Quality: contravene the statement that RE are illusions ‘good disposition’ of the knowledge revealed points to ‘something larger’ (OTTO)
- St. Theresa of Avilla: RE only religious if recipient is left in peace James’ insistence for a “good disposition” pragmatism - value judged on its effects, not its validity; fruits not root
Section 1: AO2 AGAINST
PSYCHOLOGICALLY WILLED
The psychological challenge - Freud its chief proponent - asserts that religious experiences are no more than illusions constructed by the psyche most fundamentally to satisfy neuroses
Leary: recorded experiences of LSD users and those who claimed that they had RE and the results were neatly indistinguishable from each other
Section 2: Theme
There are those who might discredit the value of conversion on the grounds of considering that corporate experinces must be more valid.
Section 2: AO1
CORPORATE
Corporate experiences arguably more reliable than individual, as a multitude of people are claiming to experience the same thing e.g. Toronto Blessing, “holy laughter”, barking, all seen as signs of the presence of the holy spirit
Section 2: AO2 FOR
CORPORATE
Swinburne: Principle of Credulity/ Testimony – “what one perceives is probably so”
- People should be believed if they have said they’ve had an experience
This is a logical assertion to make, since reliance on the senses has been instrumental to our functioning for centuries
Passivity/ transience
Section 2: AO2 AGAINST
CORPORATE
Critics suggest that people attracted to evangelical worship are pre-disposed to behaviour such as mass hysteria
-Experience more of a group hallucination brought by atmosphere of the Church
-Why would God make people bark like Dogs
-Experience does not fit James’ criteria of having a noetic quality
Corporate situations undeniable that people will be influenced by ideas of conformity – proven in psychological experiments such as people standing in the wrong direction on a lift because other people are
-Influence and desire to conform and ‘see’ God
-Weakens idea they’ve had a genuine experience
Swinburne’s idea better applied to people who are free from outside influences
Section 3: theme
Impact on the individual
Section 3: AO1
IMPACT
Yet ultimately it must be argued that the epistemological problem of other minds means one cannot prove nor disprove the validity of a religious experience; instead, experiences should be judged in accordance to their impacts and value for the individual, thereby making conversion possibly the most convincing form of religious experience.
Section 3: AO2 FOR
IMPACT
Wittgenstein’s notion of “seeing-as” in his ‘Philosophical Investigations’ has been developed by John Hick to explain how people interpret the same things in different ways, demonstrated by the duck-rabbit picture.
John hick uses the phrase “experiencing as” to demonstrate that the world and everything in it can be experienced in different ways - ultimately the veridicality of religious experiences is not something anyone other than the experiencer can comment on.
How can corporate experiences be commented on as more or less valid than individual
Section 3: AO2 AGAINST
IMPACT
Most religious experiences fit into the culture of the person’s worship - religious people are predisposed to religious experiences, attracted to the unusual and the bizarre, people search for conversions