Week 3 - Thought Experiments Flashcards
- Platos cave
- descartes demon
- brain in a vat
- leibniz’ mill
- the butterfly dream
- Fish at leasure
- what its like to be a bat
- philosohical zombies
- Platos cave
- descartes demon
- brain in a vat (computer making all ur snesations and experiences)
- leibniz’ mill (intenrla mechanism of brain if expanded it)
- the butterfly dream (Zhuangzi) (how would u know if u were a human dreaming of a buterrfly or vise versa?)
- Fish at leasure (zhuangzi): we can understand others expericnes, if u dont know my esperinces how would u know i dont know theres)
- what its like to be a bat (thomas nagel):we can understand hiw they work but well never know what its like
- philosohical zombies(david chamlers)
All of them are dualists/
Yes
Easy problems
Defined by function and eplained by ohsycial mechanisms
Hard porvlems
dont have kmown function and arent phsyical
MA RY THE COLOUR SCIENTIST
Frank jackson
did she learn anything?
- jackson says yes, she learned somehting new (the exp.)
- churchhill says she learned a NEW SKILL, not info.
Plato, Descartes, and Zhuangzi say
our subjective perceptions cannot be trusted
Leibniz, Nagel, Chalmers, and Jackson say
our subjective perceptions prove the non-physical nature of
the mind
Simulation arguement
Mick bostrom,
- Exctinct before they get to it
- Decided not to
- Were in simulation rn
If consciousness is substrate independent,
that means it’s a process that can be performed by any appropriate system (biological or otherwise) – not dependent on any particular substance
Sabine Hossenfelder:
to avoid infinite regress (simulations within
simulations) you have to compress information, such as rendering only
the parts where the simulated people are looking (like in a video game)
– this should be physically detectable
Hossenfelder calls Bostrom’s argument
pseudoscience
• If consciousness is not substrate independent and can’t be
simulated, then consciousness is
either specific to biology somehow
how?), or dependent on some other substance (ie. dualism
Simulation theory depends on
conscioussnes having substrate indepedance
Life forces
- substance or property that biological orgnaism bave that animates the body andmakes it alive.
- if u reject dualism
Gilbert ryles allegory of the university
Catgeory error