religious experience (5) Flashcards
William James
defined religion as a personal experience, he thought primary experience of the divine was the heart of religion and came before secondary, like texts. emphasised ‘fruits’ of religious experience.
core of mystical experiences
passive- feeling that you are not in control of the experience
ineffable- experience was difficult to put into words
noetic- provided insight or knowledge
transient- short lasting but a great effect on person
Christian mystics
Julian of Norwich- visions of JC when she was close to death. saw JC bleeding in front of her, she used language of love and motherhood to describe him.
Teresa of Avila- she had a vision of a spear poking her in the side and feeling great amount of love.
they both struggled to explain.
mystical experiences are reliable
- James argues that whilst there are pyschological elements, similarities could point to the divine. similar features means more reliable.
- passive means not desired or expected
- noetic, how could we explain getting new information
- transiency shows their influence as short but significant
Scheliermacher
there is more to existence than the physical, if we stop and reflect we can realise this.
mystical experiences are not reliable
- could all be in the mind, similarities is because they occur in the pysche
- passivity could be the unconsious mind convincing itself
- neurology may one day explain religious experience
- changing perspective can be found through films or books
god helmet
Persinger 1997, the experiment had people feeling as if they were beyond themselves- like passivity. a product of electromagnetic radiation, not God. incoclusive results.
pragmatism
James based his understanding on pragmatism, practical outcomes seen.
St Paul
on his way to Damascus to persecute Christians he converted to Christianity after seeing a vision and became a missionary. Act 9 and 22. he described it as being ‘re-born’
how does James describe conversion
inner self is aware of being unhappy and through conversion becomes happy. religious habits become central to life.
S Hadley
a homeless drunk who considered suicide. after his conversion he never wanted a strong drink again. his soul had been unified through God.
Starbuck and conversion
volitional- gradual change of new morals
self-surrender- pivotal and sudden change
Starbuck
believed conversion was a ‘normal adolecent phenomenon’ because it mainly happened 15-24. search for identity may result in religion.
fruits of religion
- conviction of something beyond world
- immense feeling of elation of freedom
- feeling of having met a friendly power
- change in emphasis of life, more spiritual and charitable
conversions are the most convincing religious experience
- pragmastism gives insight and shows there are practical consequences that influence us
- ‘fruits’ of religion are evident, character shift is convincing
- even if not possible to directly communicate with God, can still experience his power
conversions are not the most convincing religious experience
- Starbuck concluded it is normal for young. feeling of depression and loss seen as growing up
- Kant says its logically impossible to experience God as in world of senses
- lasting influence not only for religion but other experiences
Teresa of Avila
James- used her criteria to see if genuine conversion. it should fit with teachings of church and lead to pos change.
Freud- church cause of much guilt repressed in the super ego. teachings of church manifest in things like prayer.
pluralism
James argues that there is truth in all religions. he said no argument is sufficient to answer to existence of God. James started with religious experiences and branched out into philosophy.
God’s significance
whilst he is not definitive, James said there is evidence that Christian and Buddhist role models lived similarily. as experiences are subjective, it is the teachings made following the experience that sets them apart.
James pluralism
seen through vague descriptions of experiences, wanting to be inclusive. James described religion as a belief in unseen order to the universe.
James and a pyschological phenomena
says they are psychological with a huge subjective meaning. James says RE do not unequivocally support God, but concludes it could not be ruled out. argues there must be an unconsious power beyond conscience self.
religious experiences are evidence for God
- use of pragmatism/empircism v helpful. fruits of experience good proof of God.
- RE are ultimate reality of God but are spoken about through language influenced by our lives
- Davis used a cumulative argument to suggest that (along with other args) RE may prove a God
religious experiences are not evidence for God
- rationalist would argue that our senses can decieve us. James accounts include people who used drugs.
- unlikely that one divine source has caused multiple different experiences, Catholics see Mary etc
- Flew says that one leaky bucket cant hold water, no reason why 10 could
Jung
pyschologist who considered spirituality and religion essential to human mind. Jung said St Paul experiences a form of emotional breakdown, his guilt triggering his conversion.