Pharmacist Prescribing Flashcards
What is the number one prescribing situation for pharmacists?
Cold Sores
What is useful to pharmacists regarding prescribing for cold sores?
50% if individuals will get prodromal symptoms –> Tingling
- Helps us out a lot as far as prescribing
What is Lysine +? Efficacy in cold sores?
Amino Acid - Not very effective
Asterix on package - probably tested in test tube (cuts healing time in half)
Much more expensive compared to name brand chap stick
How is Lysine+ suppose to be used as indicated by the manufacturer?
For the relief of cold sores
Apply ointment every 2 hours until cold sore resolves
Up to 10 applications per day
Apply using a clean fingertip
Are cold sores always on the lip? What is another issue with cold sores?
Can deviate away from the lip
Can make diagnosis hard
Rare to see an MD; often MD comes into play when 5 to 6 cold sore a summer for a child
What are some benefits in cold sore prescribing regarding the individual?
Self-diagnosed –> Easy to do as has seen them before
–> legalistic approach, but we double check
–> not much can go wrong on thus front
Prodromal Symptoms may be present and helps with clueing into cold sore
What is cold-sore Fx? Efficacy?
Bee pollen/wax
- A bit better than other agents but still not that great of an agent
- Bee stuff has loads of good stuff in it
- Still just a chapstick
When do people commonly get cold sores? Describe the pattern between age and cold sores?
Virus of cold sores can infect people of all ages
Exposure to the virus typically occurs in childhood
Many people catch HSV-1 by the time they are 5 years old
One can develop a cold sore at any age although having a chnacde of an outbreak decraeses after the age of 35
Describe the typical progression of a cold sore
Typical - 2 days in:
- Will crust over (keep it soft with some normal chapstick) and will have some leakage
- Takes about a week to be taken care of
Describe the stages of a cold sore? Differential?
Stage 1: Tingling, itching, or burning
Stage 2: Blister formation - 12-24 hours later (red, swollen, pain)
Stage 3: Blister bursts - Lasts 2-3 days
Stage 4: Scab formation (may crack and bleed)
Stage 5: Healing stage
Stages of a cold sore can help differentiate from angular chelitis
Differential of cold sores
ANgular Chelitis –> Tx is to keep it soft
Impetigo - Age is usually 2-5
- Tears in the skin can lead to a staph infection
Describe cold sores
Usually form an and around the mouth and lips
Genuinely look the same from person to person
Begin with a tingle or an itch, form a small fluid blister or cluster of blisters, then pop and scab over
Describe the difference between cold sores and impetigo regaridng presnetation
Distinguishing a visual difference between the non-bullous form of impetigo and cold sores cane be difficult
Some cases, non-bollus impetigo blisters form in much larger cluster and burst more quikcly than cold sores
Impetigo often looks worse than it feels
Non bollus impetigoo does not cause much, if any, pain ; however, can experience some itchiness once blisters burst and crust over
Describe the difference between cold sores and impetigo in regards to treatment and duration of disease
Impetigo can be treated with antibiotiics, and when identidfied early, heal within a week
- Once treated, child will not experience a recurrence unless they contact the bacteria again (bacteria will not stay in child’s system for a significnat length of time)
When a child suffers cold sores, they are more likely to develop pain and itchiness throughout the stages of an outbreak
- May ecome ill during their first cold sor eoutbreak
- No cure for HSV-1 or 2, children with cold sores are mor elikely to suffer recurring outbreaks
Do cold sores cause systemic symptoms?
Not usually
The symptoms are usually the most severe the first time yoy get cold sores
A first-time cold sore can make a child seriously ill
Cold sore vs angular chelitis
Cold sores typically begin as an itchy or painful area that turns into one or a group of small painful blisters
Over time, they may weep, scab over, and finally heal
Angular Chelitis - Begins as a patch of dry, irritated, or cracked skin at one or both corners of the mouth
Desribe some of the OTC cold sore medications that may be used? Efficacy?
1) Docosonal (Abreva)
- Medicated - use in prodromal symptoms
- If used after sores burst, use chapstick
- 20$
2) Propolis - COldSoreFX
3) Camphor/Phenol - CArmex
- Some people swear by it
- Anasthetic
- TLC
4) Heparin/ZN SO4 - Lipactin
- definetly heparin receptors in the body
- not therapeutic; not out go to
5) Lysine+
6) Benzyl Alcohol - Zilactin
- Anasthetic
- Drying agent
7) Benzocaine - Orajel
- Totatlly fine to use to numb the area
8) Ice cube in Facecloth
- Anti-inflammatory
9) Thin Colloid Patch - Not avai;able anymore
- Unmedicated silicone patch - cosmetic
- Great agents
Dogs and puppies chase chickens, catch happy little bugs, zooming by outside.
Describe Abreva and its efficcay
Docosonal
- Can be used if early enough (<48 hours) and have effect
Cold sore usually lasts around 7 days
Manufacturer claims to cleave off 3 days - –> Astronomical
Fake –> 4.1 vs 4.8 days in a lab –> 0.7 of a day
Describe cold sore patches
Abreva Conceal
- Non-medicated patch that covers your cold sore and provdies a smooth surface for applying makeup
Lip Clear - Cold Sore Banadage
- Hard to find in pharamcy
- Non-medical - Cosmetic agent -> Wear for 12 hours
Describe the prescrbing symptom history section of med-sask guidelines for cold sores? Issues?
Describe the treatment options of cold sores
Describe the issues associated with topical and oral therapy of cold sores?
Topical Agents - Hard to know where lesion will form and therefore can be hard to hit the prodromal phase
Oral Agnets –> Not an issue
What are the treatment options of a cold sore once prodromal phase is over?
Describe cold sores and the concern in elderly patients
After 35 and 50 years old, have titres to fight off cold sores and become rare-ish
Nervous about squamish cells or basal cell carcinoma
–> Guidelines say 14 days
- Basal - lowest invasive skin cancer
- Melanoma is the worry
Worried in older individuals
When can a pharmacist prescribe preventative therapy for cold sores?
4-6x times per year; can give prevention therapy a thought
- If just in summer, only do prevention therapy in the summer
- Agents are safe (no s/e)
- If used all year, maybe worried about the liver
Describe why HSV-1 can lead to recurrences?
Virus remains in the body and lies dormant in a bundle of nerves called the trigeminal ganglion and stops causing infection
The virus can become active agein and cause recurrent cold sores
Cods sores typically recure three to four times a year, although some people may develop more than one cold sore per month
Describe pharmacist prescribing of birth control
Women pharmacist know this areas - Know your limits; especially of a man
- Do you smoke, then try one. If side effects, try soemthing else
Low level therapeutics
- Estrogen levels are getting lower vs historically (50 mg historically increased side ffects)
Describe a situation that may be an adverse effect bit also treatment with birth control
Acne - Sometimes worsens intially but usually improves in the long term
Acne as an adverse effect occurs with progesterone component
Ethinyl Estradiol (estrogen) can help acne
Describe why prescribing of birth control is considered safe for pharamcists?
- Low level worries about prescribing birth control in a pharamcist setting
Opill - Norgesterol Tablet
–> OTC in USA
- First ever OTC birth control
- Progestin-only pills are safer compared to the combined birth control pills that contain both estrogen and progesting
- Progestin only pills do not have the same risk of blood clots or stroke as combination pills
OTC Birth Control
LAtin America and Europe has been doing this for awhile
Leading medical organizations have affirmed that a prescription is not clinically necessart for acess ro the pill
No toxic, addictive and has no risk of oberdose, meeting FDA criteria for oTC acess
Other OTC products such as cold, flu and allergy sumptoms carry higher risks
What can be a diagnostic criteria for a migraine?
If an individual thinks they have a migraine, try a triptan
- If it helps, diagnosis via treatment
Describ ethe difference between a tension headache and migraine
Tension - Once or few times a week or continous for several days
- Generalized
Migraine - Svere, intense throbbing pain with pulsating charcter mostly localized on one side of the head
–> Typically unilater
Why is it hard to differntiate a migraine and a tension headache? Mangement?
Enough overlap between the two that can make it hard to diagnose
Just try a triptan
Describe the phases of a migraine
Prodorome Sx - 25% of people with migraines will have
- Few hours to days
Aura - 5-60 mins
Migraine Attack
- 4 to 72 hours
- Nauseau, vomitting (still can occur in tension headaches)
Post-drome - 24-48 hours
- Can occur in a tension headache as well
Describe some concerns regarding migraines and a stroke
Although symptoms can overlap, if even the slightest chance of being a stroke, call 911
If you are over 40 and never had a migraine, assume its something more serious
If you are young, more likely a migraine. If you. are older, more likely a stroke.
People who get migraines typically have had them before; rare to get 1st one when older
Describe the difference in symptoms between a stroke and a migraine/headache
If grey hairs - it may be a stroke - if first migraine/headache, lean towards a stroke (usually exoerience early in life)
Stroke - Lose (loss of function)
–> Diminishes vision
Migraine - Add on Sx
–> Added on visual stimuli
Its possible to have a firts migraine at any age, it’s more typical to begin having them as a child - Most will also recognize their aura
Describe med-sask red flags for migraine? When to refer?
Symptoms of migraine in med-sask prescribing algorithm
TX recommendations of migraines MedSask
If tripatn helps, diatgnostic
Describe the benefit of pharamcists prescribing for migraines
Pharamcists can help to close the treatment gap
- Not trying to be diagnosticians but can help decrease the tx gap
Migraines remain underdiagnosed, undertreated and under-estimated
When should acute medications for migraines be taken?
Take acute medications ASAP (within 30 mins of mild pain)
How should triptans be dosed?
If needing repeat dosing over 24 hours, taking the max dose once is more effective than a low dose twice
If prodrome phase, give high dose of triptan