Hick Flashcards
D.Z. Philips
1) if all evil doesn’t lead to some good, theodicy doesn’t hold up - God would be source of pain and suffering
2) Hick instrumentalises human suffering; means to an end- implies we should be happy about it; utilitarian and ego-centric, dismissive of suffering
3) will we continue developing in afterlife?
4) if god had planned our suffering from eternity, this could make god evil
Gratuitous evil
If it exists, we have to admit that God is either indifferent or powerless to stop it; would render Irenaean theodicy useless
Universal Salvation
Hick maintains a successful theodicy must be consistent with religious tradition- STEPHEN DAVIS points out the doctrine of hell is intrinsic to teachings
David Griffin
two equivocations of the word evil and distinction between intrinsic and instrumental values
Hick doesn’t seem to believe in genuine evil
Griffin thinks that concept of epistemic distance involves ‘divine deception’
Roth
we need to think of God as good but not good enough- he should be held accountable
Whitehead
God evolves, changes are not immutable - he suffers alongside us; can’t be omnipotent and so doesn’t have the power to stop evil
Plantinga
Argues God must necessarily allow moral evil
Mackie
if free will exists why didn’t god make us kinder?
Hick responds: predictability of behaviour wouldn’t be acceptable to god, as there is no uncertainty over who chooses to follow him, but this leads to odd conclusion that God lets us make bad choices for his benefit rather than ours
2) If moral agents decide to do good sometimes, is it not possible for them to do good always?
Ninian Smart
notion of goodness is empty if there is no such thing as temptation and hence no occasion to choose good over evil
what is the word for purposeless and gratuitous
dysteleological
Robert Mesle
if God intentionally created us as sinful because that is necessary for soul-making, then we are compelled to say that it is good that we are sinful
some people find their salvation not through their experiences but in spite of them
explain the relevance of brothers Karamazov
by the time the characters reach salvation, the general is no longer the person he was before, and would no longer commit the crimes he had in the past, but he will be the same person who is haunted by his past actions, and wishes they never happened
o the general is far less happy than if he had never committed those crimes
o this regret is ‘genuine evil’, as it serves no one
o Hick acknowledges that there is suffering which reaches far beyond constructive character training
what are the three types of genuine evil that hick acknowledges
- excess of pain
- pain which requires the person divine therapy before enjoying heaven - time cannot be made up
- memories of shame, loss, grief
- ->suffering leaves marks
why does Swinburne argue that death is necessary
to ensure humans take their responsibility seriously - “if there is always a second chance there is no risk”
schleirmacher on the inconsistencies of the augustinian theodicy
logical contradiction that a perfect world was created and then went wrong, since this implies that evil created itself ex nihilo
name 6 differences between the augustinian and irenaean theodicies (BENROP)
A - blames humans for evil; I admits god should take responsibility
A relies on net-platonism
A - god will ensure that the sinner is punished in hell; I believes god created us to have a relationship with us
A - original perfection tainted boy the fall, I -evil will enable future infinite good
I rejects the fall’s ‘original sin’ and ‘collective guilt’
A - the saved and the damned, I - eternal hell rejected since Schleirmacher
name 6 agreements between augustinian and irenaean theodicies (GOD HPW)
- Heaven will make suffering incomparable
- Fall and redemption were part of god’s plan
- ‘O Felix culpa’ – fall worth it because redemption followed it
- Need for spiritual and moral growth via suffering
- Devil is peripheral to theodicy
- The world is good
what are the image and likeness of god
image - designates man’s intelligence which enables him to have a relationship with god
likeness - the final perfecting of humans by the Holy Spirit (we develop into the likeness of god)