Dualist theories Flashcards
what are the two dualist theories
substance and property dualism
what is substance dualism
the viwe that The mental and the physical are two completely different kinds of substance
what are args for sub. dualism
conceivability arg
divisibility arg
what are args against sub. dualism
interation prob
prob of other minds
what is prop dualism
the view that Some mental properties (qualia) are non-physical and do not follow on from the physical
what are args for prop. dualism
zombie arg
knowledge arg
what are args against prop. dualism
knowledge of qualia
evolution
what are physical substances
sub. dual
things like trees, cars, houses. your body, your arms, legs etc
dualist view on brain AND the mind
- brain is part of body so is physical
- but deny that mind is same as brain
- mind is non-physical
who made the conceivability arg
descartes
what is descartes conceivability arg
- I have a clear and distinct idea of my mind as a thinking thing that is not extended in space
- I have a clear and distinct idea of my body as a non-thinking thing that is extended in space
- Anything I can conceive of clearly and distinctly is something that God could create
- So, God could create my mind as a thinking thing that is not extended in space and my body as a non-thinking thing that is extended in space
- So, it is possible for mind and body to exist independent of each other
C. So, mind and body are two separate substances
what is the conceivalility arg reliant on
descartes notion of clear and distinct ideas
Clear and distinct ideas are trustworthy, complete, and true rather than just random thoughts that may or may not be accurate.
list teh responses to conceivabilty arg
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- mind without body is inconceivable
- what is conceivable may not be physically possible
- masked man fallacy
response to conceivability arg
mind without body is inconceivable
- Behaviourism says that to have mental states is to have behavioural dispositions
- To have behavioural dispositions is to be disposed to move your body in certain ways
- It is inconceivable to be disposed to move your body in certain ways if you don’t have a body
- So, it is inconceivable to have mental states if you don’t have a body
- So, mind without body is inconceivable
response to conceivability arg
what is conceivable may not be physically possible
- just because we can imagine the mind floating around independently of a body, this doesn’t mean it is physically possible.
- e.g not logically possible for a triangle to have 4 sides because it involves a logical contradiction.
- e.g logically possible for me to jump on to the moon from earth. It might be physically impossible, but there is no logical contradiction in this idea!
response to conceivability arg
masked man fallacy
- I conceive of Batman as a caped crusader
- I conceive of Bruce Wayne as a billionaire who is not a caped crusader
- Therefore, Batman is not Bruce Wayne
* BUT batman is bruce wayne so the conc. is false
* even though it may be conceivable that Batman is someone else, this tells us nothing about how things are in reality. To think otherwise is to fall for the masked man fallacy
why is the masked man fallacy fallacious (based on a false belief)
because it switches from talking about ideas to talking about things themselves
1. Just because you have an idea of Batman and Bruce Wayne as separate people, this doesn’t mean they are separate people
2. Similarly, just because you have an idea that the mind and body are separate things, this doesn’t necessarily mean they are separate things
who craeted the divisibility arg
descartes
what is descartes divisibility arg
- my body is divisible
- my mind is NOT divisible
- therefoere my mind and body are seperate things
this arg uses Leibniz’s law of identicals
what is Leibniz’s law of identicals
says that for A and B to be the same thing, A and B must have all the same properties. If two things have different properties, they cannot be the same thinG
what are the response to the divisibility arg
- the mind is divisible
- not everything that is physical is divisible
response to divisibility arg
mind is divisible
- cases of mental illness in which the mind does seem literally divided. eg multiple personality disorder could be said to have a divided mind
- people who have literally had their brain cut in half. A corpus callosotomy is a surgical procedure for epilepsy where the main connection between the left and right hemispheres of the brain is severed.
suggests second premise of arg is FALSE
response to divisibility arg
not everything that is physical is divisible
- If it’s possible to reach a point where physical matter becomes indivisible, then not everything that is indivisible is non-physical
- And so, even if Descartes successfully shows that the mind is indivisible, this doesn’t prove that the mind is non-physical
- It’s possible that the mind is the same kind of substance as the body (i.e. a physical substance) – it’s just an indivisible form of that same substance.
what are the over-arching probs for substance dualism
- prob of other minds
- causal interation