Barbs Flashcards
What is more potent, a long branched chain or a straight chain?
Levo-isomers or dextro-isomers?
Long branched chain is more potent
Levo-isomers are twice as potent as dextro-isomers
‘Sodium something’ has a pKa of 3.8. Will this drug be more than 50% or less than 50% ionized at physiological ph?
Sodium is a positive molecule, so we can assume this is a weak acid (acids unite with positive ions).
A weak acid with a pKa of 3.8 at physiological pH means that we have fewer hydrogen ions than at equilibrium.
The ionized form will dominate.
Methohexital dose
1-2 mg/kg IV (induction)
20-30mg/kg in peds
base or acid?
opioids
barbs
benzos
ketamine
propofol
local anesthetics
opioid = weak base
barbs = alkaline in the bottle, acid at physiologic pH
benzos = bases
ketamine = base
propofol = acid
local anesthetics = base
Methyl radical on a barbiurates imparts what activity (methohexital)
CONVULSANT activity
which patients are at higher risk of allergic rxn
atopic patients (astmathics)
Barbiturates with __ at carbon #__ increases hypnotic activity
Barbiturates with __ at carbon #_ increases anticonvulsant activity
Having a _ increases convulsant activity
Branched chain at carbon #5 increases HYPNOTIC activity
Phenyl group at carbon#5 increases ANTICONVULSANT activity (phenobarbital)
Methyl radical increases convulsant activity (methohexital)
barbs
inadequate dosages (subtherapeutic) effects
- stage 2 like response to airway manipulation (high risk of laryngospasm and bronchospasm)
- paradoxical excitement
Barbiturates are ____ (acidic/alkaline) drugs, but when prepared in ____ solution, they are weak ___
They are acidic drugs
Prepared in highly alkaline solution (bacteriostatic)
Actually are weak acids, not bases
Other side effects not mentioned yet of barbs?
- Venous thrombosis
- Crosses placenta
- N/V
- Accelerated production of heme
- by stimulation of an enzyme, D-aminolevulinic acid synthetase
- caution in porphyria
Why is tolerance an issue with barbs?
As good enzyme inducers, they metabolize themselves well, tolerance builds, they need more drug for more effect,
Barbiturate MOA?
Decreases rate that GABA dissociates from receptor (increases duration of GABA), Cl channel opens
decreased postsynaptic sensitive to Ach, some muscle relaxation
Mimics GABA at receptor → DIRECTLY
Decreases trasmission in the sympathetic ganglia leading to hypotension
Depresses RAS -> sleep
Barbs
intra-arterial injection treatment
- dilute with NS
- phenoxybenzamine (direct acting alpha blocker)
- prevent thrombosis: heparin, urokinase
- brachial plexus or stellate ganglion block
- Papaverine (opium derivative -> vasodilator) 40-80 mg in 10-20 ml NS
- Lidocaine 1% 5-10 ml
Will induction be faster or slower when administering Thiopental to an acidotic patient?
Alkalotic?
Thiopental is an acidic drug with a pKa of 7.6
If the patient is acidotic, lower pH, means there are more Hydrogen ions available. With more ions available, the non-ionized form dominates and induction is FASTER!
If the patient is alkalotic, a higher pH, there are fewer Hydrogen ions available. With fewer ions available, the ionized form dominates and the induction is SLOWER!
All barbiturates are derived from what?
Barbituric acid urea and malonic acid
‘Something Sulfate’ has a pKa of 4.5, will this drug be more than 50% or less than 50% non-ionized at physiological pH?
Sulfate is a negative molecule, so we can assume this is a weak base (bases unite with negative ions).
A weak base with a pKa of 4.5 at physiological pH (above the pKa) means that we have fewer Hydrogen ions (more alkalotic) than at equilibrium.
The non-ionized form will dominate.
Induction of GA dosages for TPL and methohexital?
- TPL 3-5 mg/kg IV (dec dose for elderly and first trimester pregnancy, inc dose for kids)
- Methohexital 1-2 mg/kg IV or 20-30 mg/kg po in peds
Duration 5-8 min (that’s when it redistributes)
most potent hepatic enzyme inducer of the barbs
phenobarbital
Barbiturate respiratory effects?
- Depression of medullary and pontine ventilatory centers
- decrease response to hypoxia and hypercapnia
- APNEA
- Incomplete depression laryngeal and cough reflexes (laryngospasm, bronchospasm)
Drugs to avoid giving people with porphyria?
- Sulfonamide
- Etomidate
- Nifedipine
- Diazepam
- Phenytoin
- Barbs
- Alcohol
- Ketorolac
SEND Phil BAK (he’s unsafe)
Drugs safe in porphyria
- Opioid analgesics
- Narcan
- Propofol
- Ketamine (probably safe)
- Nitrous
- Succs
- Pancuronium
- Neostigmine
- Atropine
- Glycopyrolate
- Aspirin
- Acetaminophen
- Penicillin
- Glucocoticoids
- Insulin
Barbiturate pharmacokinetics?
Rapid onset
Redistribution is rapid, terminates effect
Extensive metabolism
Highly protein bound
Ionization of TPL: pK is 7.6
Methohexital contraindications
hx of seizures
pregnancy
porphyria
asthma
LR (it precipitates)
phenobarbital DOA
4-10 hrs