week 4 lung cancer and smoking also pleural effusion and asbestos Flashcards
what are the survival rates for cancer?
quite poor, in 2009 less than 10%
How does surgical intervention affect survival curve?
How many patients are suitable for this?
Huge effect, however 2/3 patients present with advanced disease
Pulmonary nodule vs mass?
Mass: opacity in lung over 3cm, with no mediastinal adenopathy or atelectasis
Nodule: opacity in lung up to 3cm with with no mediastinal adenopathy or atelectasis
Causes of localised opacity in X-ray?
Approx method for reviewing a CXR?
Look at:
Name/marker/penetration
Metal work
Mediastinum contours and heart first ( no widening, trachea central, hilar vascular structures crisply defined)
Central airways (any area of increased density? Distorted? Pulled in an inappropriate direction?)
Both lungs: compare upper, middle then lower zones for nodules and mass
Both lungs: anything that indicates lung collapse? (E.g. may be loss of volume, costophrenic angles for blunting which might mean pleural thickening of fluid).
Bones and soft tissues
Final look at apices, hila behind heart, and below hemidiaphragms
What might cause a white out of a hemithorax?
large pleural effusion?
complete collapse of lung?
pneumectomy
pleural effusion or complete collapse of lung?
pleural effusion: mediastinal shift away from that side, pushed away by the fluid
lung collapse: loss of volume on lung collapse side, so mediastinum will be pulled towards that
*same with pneumectomy
If we see a collapsed lung on an x-ray, and they haven’t had a CT for us to discount it, what is the assumptive diagnosis?
central tumour
especially in an older patient, who is a smoker
main bronchus divides into what bronchi sub types
lobar, segmental, sub-segemental
lungs divided into lobes, and then bronchopulmonary segments- remove one, others remain unaltered in their function (good for a surgeon to know)
right = 10, left = 8-10 (some may fuse)
on a chest x-ray, do you define lobes?
No use zones not lobes:
upper, middle, lobar
how could you guess where the pulmonary arteries are
follow the bronchopulmonary segments to find out where the pulmonary arteries are
which ventricle pumps blood into the main pulmonary artery
divides into right and left pulmonary arteries before subdividing into lobar, segmental, and sub-segmental branches.
CT pulmonary angiogram used why
to find a pulmonary embolus
Lymph nodes shown in a CT scan?
potential malignancy, potentially from lung cancer? Or infection? It’s a broad differential
why might we beware the lobar collapse which fails to resolve in 2-3 weeks of a smoker aged over 45
central lung cancer?
can you get more than one lobe collapsing
yes
where might lesions be in particular more subtle and difficult to spot in a CXR
Beware of lesions behind the heart and hila.
(compare with previous films, always look at review areas)
why might you compare with previous films
easier to spot abnormality when you have something to compare to
4 places an abnormality may hide on CXR
Hila, lung apices, behind the heart, behind the diaphragm
which hilum is a bit higher normally, and if they’re not is it okay
left
its okay
but right should never be higher
why is the left hilum usually higher
because the left main pulmonary artery arches over the left main bronchus
should the density behind the heart and below the diaphragm be comparable?
yes
should both hilum’s be equal ‘bulkiness’?
yes otherwise perhaps a mass e.g. ‘left hilar mass’
(unrelated, but remember the name ‘mass, left costophrenic angle)
As well as actually looking at the CXR, what else is important in the diagnosis and staging of lung cancer?
looking at the clinical history
What key info from a clinical history might be useful for staging lung cancer?
Increasing SOB in smoker, history of pulmonary fibrosis, recent haemoptysis
Would the lesion ever be on the breast?
Yes. Important to confirm that lesion is intrapulmonary.
What’s the next step after an X-RAY if there is an uncertainty?
CT
What’s one reason you might see a breast implant in CXR?
If patient has had a mastectomy
What is a pulmonary nodule/mass? (not vs)
opacity in lung with no mediastinal adenopathy or atelectasis
difference between a mass vs nodule
mass = over 3cm
nodule= up to 3cm
so basically it’s a mass if it’s over 3cm
Most common reason for CXR
Diagnosis for pneumonia
You can only asses heart/mediastinum width etc on PA view
True
Why aren’t CXR good for looking for rib fractures
Can’t see 50% of rib fractures in CXR
Pneumothorax- related to rib fractures (air in pleural place)
Subcutaneous emphysema (looks like air outside lung)
Border of heart lost? Might conclude?
Suggests something is in the lung, abutting the left side of the heart
If we can see bronchus?
Usually cant see bc it’s air filled, surrounded by air filled lung. But if:
Surrounded by dense, consolidated lung, full of pus eg due to pneumonia.
No lung markings?
Maybe pneumothorax?
Which hemidiaphragm should be slightly higher than the other?
Right
Pneumoperitanium might look like
Free gas under diaphragm- perforated the bowel.
In lung cancer. Would it often be one or multiple nodules/masses
In the context of lung cancer usually solitary, unless metastatic (could metastasise to another part of the lung).
Could you get benign nodules can you think of four things
Hematoma’s- which have fat/calcium in, or carcinoid tumours, or vascular malformations, foci of calcification.
Is TB a cavitating illness?
Yes
Would the formation of fungal ball or aspergilloma within the cavity be a complication of what type of illness?
Cavitating illness eg
TB
What’s a pulmonary cavitation?
Thick-walled abnormal gas filled spaces within the lung, usually associated with a nodule, mass, or area of consolidation
A fluid level within the space may be present.
What could commonly present with hemoptysis?
Pulmonary cavities
Staging of lung cancer, 4 key stages:
Clinical history/ exam
Performance status
Pulmonary function
TNM International system for staging lung cancer
What’s TNM staging?
Three parts:
- How big / how far spread / size and position of Tumour (T)
- Whether cancer cells have spread to lymph nodes (N)
- Whether rumour has spread anywhere else in body (M)
What’s typical progression of metastasis of lymph nodes from the lungs?
Contra lateral mediastinal nodes
Clavicular nodes
For assessing lymphatic metastasis from the lungs, what three tools could you use?
PET-CT
Mediastinoscopy
CT
What’s a PET/CT for diagnosing lung cancer?
Metabolic assessment of the patient and the disease, using a label glucose analogue FDG, which is attached to fluorine 18, which is taken up most by cells in particular that are metabolically active
Metabolically active cells shown by PET/CT scan could be:
Inflammatory
Malignant
(FDG uptake)
N2 disease means what
2 nodes
What’s the ‘T’ stage of TNM about?
Size when we can’t assess eg because it’s in a collapsed lung or something
What are the measurements/staging of the ‘T’ stage of TNM?
T1 through to T4
T1 up to 3cm
If involvement of chest wall, T3 regardless of size, or separate nodule in same node as primary
T4, 7 cm or more, or invading a structure incl. mediastinum, or separate tumour nodule in different ipsilateral node
Meaning of N1-3 of ‘N’ stage?
N1= ipsilateral peribronchial, hilar, or intrapulmonary nodes
N2=
How do we know if the node is metastatic?
Not if less than 1cm (tho that is an arbitrary cut off)
If not sure if node is malignant?
Node can be targeted for tissue sampling
Could the brain be a common site of metastasis for lung cancer?
Yes
M1 staging?
Metastasis within the thorax
Where is normal FDG uptake?
Heart, GI tract, brain
Limitations of PET CT?
False pos/neg
Cost
Eg nodule too small, inflam, or slow growing malignancy bc it has low metabolic rate
Is it important or not important to get a tissue sample for lung cancer and how?
Yes
Guided by CT or also by PET/CT
Or bronchoscopy
Mediastinoscopy to sample mediastinal nodes
Could CT have a role in screening?
Maybe in the future
what’s the principal reason for undertaking thoracic surgery?
lung cancer
how many patients with lung cancer are operable?
like 10%
if at risk of ischemic heart disease, and COPD, are you as a patient suffering from lung cancer, operable for thoracic surgery?
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) increases the chances of surgical complications, such as infections and respiratory crises. In fact, long-term survival rates for people with severe COPD who have surgery are lower than that of people who do not have COPD.1
Given this, a pre-operative evaluation that screens for lung disease is done in preparation for any surgical procedure.
why not thoracic surgery when you have both lung cancer and COPD?
mucus plugs
brochospasm
pneumothorax
hyperventitlation
How effective is thoracic surgery?
Of the 10% who can actually get operated on, about half are permanently cured of lung cancer
lymph node involvement in lung cancer is sometimes responsible for what?
recurrent laryngeal nerve palsy, or phrenic nerve palsy
Paralysis of the larynx (voice box) caused by damage to the recurrent laryngeal nerve or its parent nerve, the vagus nerve
These nerves are at risk of being destroyed by incoming tumor cells, e.g. those lying between the aortic arch and left pulmonary artery
where is the aortic pulmonary window
Between the aortic arch and left pulmonary artery
Why might clinical staging give a clue as to metastesis?
Because metastesis is often painful, especially if in the bones or the brain, headaches
Why the phenomenon of personality change?
CT scan the norm for lung cancer management.
If personality change, may be a feature of cerebral metastesis.