unit 3 aos 2 - personal identity Flashcards
according to Locke, what is the difference between a person and a man? what analogy does he use?
Locke defines a man as a body, and a person as a rational thinking conscious part. He posits that if there were a dull, irrational man, and a very intelligent, rational parrot, then the man would be a human but have no person, and the parrot would have a person.
in sum, what does Locke say personal identity lies in?
Since consciousness always accompanies thinking and it is what distinguishes us from one another, it must follow that consciousness alone consists personal identity, not anything physical.
He also suggests that our identity is our consciousness as far as it can be extended back to any past action or thought ie. We are the summation of our memories.
what objections does Locke anticipate in section 10?
Locke anticipates an objection that could be raised against his argument that identity=memory. There is the issue of memory loss, sleeping, and not being able to view all your memories and one point, yet it would be absurd to say that the person who can remember, and the one that can’t are two separate persons.
why does Locke say the objections in section 10 don’t matter?
They can still be the same man or living organism, but they are indeed separate persons. It doesn’t matter if memory is interrupted because regardless of the substance (ie. physical body), it is your consciousness that identity depends on.
Essentially, he is saying that you always are your memories, and if you forget some, they simply aren’t a part of your identity anymore.
why does Locke say a change of substances does not necessitate a change in identity?
Lock claims that a change in your physical form/substance does not produce a change in identity, because your identity lies in your consciousness and memories, not the sameness of your physical body over time.
If you change a part of your physical form, you still have the same identity because it doesn’t change your memory and consciousness.
what though experiment does Locke use to say that change in substance isn’t a change in identity?
he used a thought experiment of a severed hand. If you were to cut off a hand, thus changing the substance of yourself, it still does not change personal identity and is still the same person because you still have memory of the hand.
Essentially he is arguing that personal identity does not reside in physical attributes
how does Locke reject the same soul theory?
Locke anticipates that it could be your soul, that non-material part of humans wherein personal identity resides.That is, we could imagine the same consciousness being transferred from one soul to another. Yet, he argues that it cannot be the unchanging, immaterial soul which makes someone the same person over time, it is still merely your memories.
what thought experiment does Locke use to show that identity is not in soul?
consider there was someone claiming that in a past life they were Socrates and have now been reincarnated, that is, the soul of Socrates has been transferred into a current man’s body, and this soul was also at one point in the body of Nester or Thersites at the Battle of Troy.
If this soul was in fact in all of these bodies (Socrates, nester, and now rational man, and they could somehow prove it), the question remains, is it the same person/identity?
Locke confirms that this is all irrelevant if you have no memory of it. He would say YES if the man could remember these past lives, but NO if he has no recollection of it.
what is the prince cobbler thought experiment?
suppose the soul of a prince entered the body of a cobbler and vice versa (think freaky friday), and they swap bodies. From their first person perspectives they would be confused and think they’re in the wrong body, but in the third person from other people’s perspectives, they’re the same. So the question remains, which one is the prince and which one is the cobbler? Have the swapped identities?
Locke says that because identity is in consciousness and memory, not the sameness of a living organism the prince is still the cobbler and the cobbler is still the prince, because although they now have different bodies, the prince still has the memories of the prince, and vice versa.
There is still a living life force that changes, but the identity does not, because it resides in MEMORY. The third person perspective is irrelevant, the memory is what is important and is what defines memory.
what is the little finger analogy?
Locke goes on to use the little finger analogy to explain that where the consciousness lies, that is where personal identity lies.
If our consciousness was only held in our little finger and it was cut off and separated (with all the self-identified memories of what it would mean to be us) then our personal identity would also be in the little finger.
what is Lockes socrates sleeping analogy?
if Socrates awake and Socrates asleep have different memories and consciousness, they are not the same person.
If Socrates committed a crime while asleep and then woke up and doesn’t remember it, then we should not punish Socrates awake. To do so would be tantamount to punishing a twin for something his twin brother did just because they look the same.
what does Locke respond to the question of memory loss? what does he say about the term ‘I’?
The question arises if I lose the memories of a whole part of my life, am I not the same person that did those actions? Locke’s reply would be that we are conflating the difference between man and person (I in the sense of the question conflate the two definitions that he has laid out)
Essentially, he is saying that if we forget parts of our life, we are the same MAN who did those actions, but not the same PERSON.
The objection is presuming that the man is the same person, and I is easily supposed to stand for both, however, if it’s possible for one man to have different consciousness at different times, then they are different persons. When we say I we are making a statement about the physical body, if it’s something we don’t remember.
what is Lockes analogy of the mad man and what does he say about our language?
human laws do not punish a mad man for the sober man’s actions, nor a sober man for a mad man’s actions, thereby making them two distinct persons.
This distinction is also somewhat explained by our language. People often say phrases like ‘he is not himself’, which is suggestive that the same person is no longer in the same self.
Essentially he is saying it’s interesting that we don’t punish sober man for mad man’s actions, and have phrases like that, yet will still say that a person who forgets stuff is the same person and should be treated accordingly.
what is lockes thought experiment of the drunk and sober man?
Locke uses a thought experiment of a drunk man and a sober man. To Locke, they are not the same person, as the sober man does not have any memory of the drunk man’s actions. Neither is conscious of the actions of each other.
But legally we are not able to determine if there is continuity of consciousness so the courts will use the identity of a man (not the person) to pass judgement.
He hopes that in the future, there will be a means through which we shall be able to determine whether there is a continuity of consciousness and subsequently punish people accordingly, based on the PERSON and not the MAN.
what does Locke say is necessary for happiness?
Essentially, whatever is founded in concern for happiness ie. pleasure and avoidance of pain. That which is conscious of pleasure and pain is happy.
what does Locke conclude about punishing people for what they don’t remember? What is the legal implication?
Whatever actions you cannot remember and apply to your present self, you cannot be concerned for, as it’s not a part of your identity. If you don’t remember, it’s equivalent to it having never been done, and to receive punishment for it, would be the same as punishing a man now for what he had done in a past life.
There is no difference between being punished for something you don’t remember and being created miserable. However the legal implication is that we cannot determine what someone does and doesn’t remember.
what does Locke say at the end about heaven?
Locke also posits that on the day that one dies and it’s being determined whether they go to heaven or not, this is not an issue because the sentence shall be justified as this is determined merely by what is attached to your consciousness.
what is Reid’s though experiment about the general?
a boy as a child is flogged for stealing an apple by the orchid owner. Then, as a young man he becomes a brave army officer, and at this point he still has a strong memory of stealing the apple from the orchid. Then, as an old decorated general, he still remembers being a young officer, however, he doesn’t remember being the young boy who stole the apple from the orchid.
what is the key argument of Reids objection to Locke?
essentially, Reid points out a flaw in Locke’s argument as it does not align with the axiom of transitivity. According to the axiom of transitivity then A=B (boy = young officer), B=C (young officer = old general), and C=A (general = boy), however, Locke would argue that C does not equal A because C has no memory of A, thus Locke is breaking the axiom.
what is a counter argument to Reids objection to Locke?
Philosopher H.P Grice, pointed out that a person’s life can be conceived as a series of momentary stages. In order for the old general to be identical with the small boy, it is not required that the general remember experiences and actions of the boy but only that the old-general person-stage be linked to the small-boy person-stage by a series of person-stages, each member of which contains memories of something occurring in the immediately preceding stage.
There is still a continuity of memory from the boy to the officer to the general, so it could still necessitate that it’s the same identity.
what is Butlers circularity objection to Locke?
Locke argues that continuity of memory is a necessary criterion for personal identity. However, Butler argues that personal identity is a necessary criterion for having continuity of memory – it is not possible to speak of memories without presupposing a person who has those memories.
Ie. Locke presupposes a self, memory = self, but Butler asks, what self is existing before the memories to have those memories? Therefore, the argument is circular because a self must exist to have memories, but memory must be there to constitute a self.