Secondary Scholarship - Ovid

Question 1

Who are the scholars who discuss Ovid in love and relationship

Answer 1

• Trimble
• Wyke
• Barr and Thorley

Question 2

Who wrote:
“we know little about Ovid but it’s largely what he chooses to tell us in his poetry”

Answer 2

Wyke

Question 3

Who wrote:
“Ovid doesn’t seem close to Meacenas, he seems not to have had any close patronage and he certainly keeps Augustus very much on the edges of his poetry”

Answer 3

Wyke

Question 4

Who wrote:
“Augustus controlled sex, he introduced legislation on who could marry and criminalised adultery”

Answer 4

Wyke

Question 5

Who wrote:
Ovid wrote: “how one can be aroused to love by identifying features of youself in someone else”

Answer 5

Wyke

Question 6

Who wrote:
“people are still interested in Ovid they still want to read his work”

Answer 6

Wyke

Question 7

Who wrote:
Ovid starts out working on love elegies

paraphrased

Answer 7

Trimble

Question 8

Who wrote:
[in writing that the rest is known to all (or such)] Ovid implies that there are plenty of people in even Augustan Rome who know as much about sex as they need to know so its like an in-joke as the reader is just as experienced as him”

paraphrased

in possibly the 1st book

Answer 8

Trimble

in possibly the 1st book

Question 9

Who wrote:
“He [Ovid] is fairly clear in his exile poetry that them poem [that was part of what caused his exile] was the Ars Amatoria - the art of love.”

Answer 9

Trimble

Question 10

Who wrote:
He [Ovid] writes a long letter to Augustus justifying the ars amatoria and explaining that it wasnt addressed to respectable women for whom adultery would be a crime.

paraphrased

Answer 10

Trimble

Question 11

Who wrote:
whereas he wrote to the men saying this is how you find and girl when he writes to the women he really sort of says this is how you look after yourself to make yourself attractive to be found by a man so not really quite as even handed

paraphrased

Answer 11

Trimble

Question 12

Who wrote:
Ovid tries to present himself as very much a loyal follower of Augustus

paraphrased

Answer 12

Trimble

Question 13

Who wrote:
“For Ovid, love is not necessarily romantic ….. rather, love means the seduction of the person you desire and the physical acts that follow.”

Answer 13

Barr and Thorley

Question 14

Who wrote:
“Ovid’s instructions certainly do not tell his pupils how to keep their lovers after having sex (except to string them along); he stops when he has told them how to bed a lover and what to do in bed.”

Answer 14

Barr and Thorley

Question 15

Who wrote:
“It is better to think of Ars Amatoria as the art of seduction”

Answer 15

Barr and Thorley

Question 16

Who wrote:
“To Ovid, love is a game to be played: the seduction of a lover is the ultimate prize.”

Answer 16

Barr and Thorley

Question 17

Who wrote:
“This humour at the expense of the adresses and the clear advanages of men…. suggest that Ovid is writing not only for the female audience but also for an appreciative, eavesdropping male audience”

Answer 17

Barr and Thorley

Question 18

Who wrote:
“If Ovid is writing for a male audience as well as a female audience then this poem takes on a new flavour. The tone of the book changes and it becomes more of a parody of didactic poetry and… a joke at the expense of women.”

Answer 18

Barr and Thorley

Question 19

Who wrote:
“Ovid seemed unconcerned with the new laws [lex julia]”

Answer 19

Barr and Thorley

Question 20

What were Wyke’s contributions on Ovid in Love and relationships

Answer 20

• “we know little about Ovid but it’s largely what he chooses to tell us in his poetry”
• “Ovid doesn’t seem close to Meacenas, he seems not to have had any close patronage and he certainly keeps Augustus very much on the edges of his poetry”
• “Augustus controlled sex, he introduced legislation on who could marry and criminalised adultery”
• Ovid wrote: “how one can be aroused to love by identifying features of youself in someone else”
• “people are still interested in Ovid they still want to read his work”

Question 21

What were Trimble’s contributions on Ovid in Love and relationships

Answer 21

• Ovid starts out working on love elegies
• [in writing that the rest is known to all (or such)] Ovid implies that there are plenty of people in even Augustan Rome who know as much about sex as they need to know so its like an in-joke as the reader is just as experienced as him”
• “He [Ovid] is fairly clear in his exile poetry that them poem [that was part of what caused his exile] was the Ars Amatoria - the art of love.”
• He [Ovid] writes a long letter to Augustus justifying the ars amatoria and explaining that it wasnt addressed to respectable women for whom adultery would be a crime.
• whereas he wrote to the men saying this is how you find and girl when he writes to the women he really sort of says this is how you look after yourself to make yourself attractive to be found by a man so not really quite as even handed
• Ovid tries to present himself as very much a loyal follower of Augustus

Question 22

What were Barr and Thorley’s contributions on Ovid in Love and relationships

Answer 22

• “For Ovid, love is not necessarily romantic ….. rather, love means the seduction of the person you desire and the physical acts that follow.”
• “Ovid’s instructions certainly do not tell his pupils how to keep their lovers after having sex (except to string them along); he stops when he has told them how to bed a lover and what to do in bed.”
• “It is better to think of Ars Amatoria as the art of seduction”
• “To Ovid, love is a game to be played: the seduction of a lover is the ultimate prize.”
• “This humour at the expense of the addresses and the clear advantages of men in these lines suggest that Ovid is writing not only for a female audience but also for an appreciative, eavesdropping male audience.”
• “If Ovid is writing for a male audience as well as a female audience then this poem takes on a new flavour. The tone of the book changes and becomes more of a parody of didactic poetry and, almost, a joke at the expense of women.”
• “Ovid seemed unconcerned with the new laws [lex Julia]”