Responses to Kant Flashcards
it used to be that art for arts sake would be….and who sais
MONSTEROUS -Harold Osborne
Would the Greeks agree on MONSTEROUS
Greeks would not agree!! Greeks don’t like art for art’s sake, but instead “the arts were appraised just as any other products of human industry - by their effectiveness in promoting the objects for which they were made” ie art on pottery
What emerged in the 18th century with regard to art?
the distinction between the fine arts and the useful or industrial arts
Osborne -Beauty
effectiveness for some good purpose
Osborne on Disinterestedness
seems to be a way to dissociate from ourselves and just purely have a sensuous moment.
Sensuous awareness -Osborne
Osborne
Sensuous awareness is the first step out from imprisonment within the solitariness which is the first penalty of individual existence
Aesthetic experience-Osborne
Osborne
Aesthetic experience is an amplification and an intensification of sensual awareness
-relief from oneself
Langer
very influenced by Kant.
Who said all art aspires to the condition of music?
Walter Pater
all art aspires to the condition of music
-Condition of music: symbolic logic
-Experience of art (not nature) as a different kind of
knowing things without language, direct experience
-Experience of music can be a pure experience
How does Langer describe aesthetic experience?
Aesthetic emotion and emotional context are very different
Aesthetic emotion
overcoming word bound thought
Aesthetic pleasure
satisfaction of discovering truth
Emotion springs from one activity which the artist and he beholder’s share in unequal parts- comprehension of an unspoken idea
Dewey- what does he want from us?
Dewey seems like he wants us to find art in places other than where we mainstream believe that we can find something “aesthetically pleasing” (aka museums)
“In order to understand the meaning of artistic products, we have to forget them for a time, to turn aside from them and have recourse to the ordinary forces and conditions of experience that we do not usually regard as esthetic” (pg 157)
Dewey
“As works of art have lost their indigenous states, they have acquired a new one- that of being specimens of fine art and nothing else” (162)
Dewey
Bourdieu- what is his argument about disinterestedness
he calls it the ‘pure gaze’ ?
How we feel about art is connected to our socioeconomic status
‘Eye’ is a product of education
The pure gaze implies a break with the ordinary attitude towards the world,
which, given the conditions in which it is performed, is also a social separation.
pure gaze- who says this? what does it mean?
Bourdieu. The pure gaze implies a break with the ordinary attitude towards the world, which, given the conditions in which it is performed, is also a social separation.
For Bourdieu, is disinterested experience a fundamental part of human nature or a learned behavior, part of our cultural education?
The disinterested experience is a learned behavior, part of our cultural education.
What do working class people expect from art according to Bourdieu’s research?
“Working class people expect every image to… perform a function, if only that of a sign…” (page 174)
“A beholder who lacks cultural code feels lost in chaos of sounds and rhythms, colors and lines, without rhyme or reason.” (pg. 173)
Elite is better understanding of art
“to the norms of morality or agreeableness…their appreciation always has an ethical basis”
How is taste used in culture – a way that’s not very pretty acc. to B?
“…favors those who had early access to legitimate culture, in a cultured household, outside of scholastic disciplines, since even within the educational system it devalues scholarly knowledge and interpretation as ‘scholastic’ or even ‘pedantic’ in favour of direct experience and simple delight” (page 173)
