religious language - apophatic, cataphatic, symbolic Flashcards
intro
- theists try and convey other aspects of belief e.g. afterlife
- judaism – yahweh is not used due to it being too holy
- Xian tradition uses cataphatic way
apophatic way
- negative, what god is not
- combined with mysticism
- non cog
- equivocal, language is diff when used with god
maimonides
- in talking about what god is not, we come to terms with what he is
- building up an image
- e.g. ship
pseudo-dionysus
- influenced by judaism, god is beyond knowledge
- transposed neoplatonism into Xian context
- soul seeks to be reunited with god
- god is beyond human understanding
- human language cannot desc god, must recognise human limitation to make progress
- apophatic conveys otherness
analysis of apophatic way
+ Gregory of Nyssa. we can still know god’s essence and effects in world using apophatism
+ teahan, knowing by unknowing
+ Phil of Alexandria. gods nature is inaccessible
+ stiver, language of denial leads to truth
+ 1 kings 19:18, ‘all whose knees have not bowed down’
+ Otto, mysticism (pseudo)
- Olson, depersonalises god
- hume, near to atheism
- davies, no idea what he is e.g. wardrobe
- inge, lose link between god and humanity
cataphatic way
via media between univocal and equivocal
j 14:6
matt 25
- faith and reason. look at nature. see god in it. creatures resemble god
- but god is wholly other
- analogy of attribution e.g. bull/baker
- analogy of proportion e.g. violinist. god is beyond human level
positives of cataphatic way
+wittgenstein, language game
+ Ian ramsey, disclosure situation (polygon) and qualified model (plane)
+ c.s. Evans, wholly ohther
+ hick, eschatological verified
+ erik pryzwara, unknowable
+ taede smedes, beyond the world, need analogy
+ McGrath, god and nature
+ pope Francis, god and nature. we reflect him
+ Aristotle, theory of likeness
negatives of cataphatic way -
- Barth, via eminentiae
- ahluwalia, how are we comparing
- Swinburne, unnecessary. we use language univocally
- ayer, verification
- Blackstone, need to translate analogies into univocal lang first
- stanislaw lem, cant desc something you don’t know
- st paul, 1 cor 13:12. we see through the glass darkly
- gamwell, do not understand god. can’t use analogy
- scotus, contradiction in what he says
- augustine, reason
symbol
Xian existentialist
faith and culture
god is wholly other
sign vs. symbol
- sign = arbitrary
- symbol = participate
- more like poetry than prose
- RE symbol is coming to terms with human experience e.g. cross
god and symbol
- god is true reality, transcendent
- human language is insufficient
- symbols say more to the profound spirit than conventional words
- symbols can change meaning
- symbols depend on context
internal reality
- numinous
- transcend capacity of finite reality
- senses go beyond world
- personal experience necessary to engage e.g. art
symbol positives
\+ bible, j14:2 \+ bultmann/robinson, bible, lib xians \+ Rudolph Otto, mystery \+ wittgenstein \+ philips, eternal life does not mean living forever \+ Randall, motivation, communication, social, clarification \+ hare \+ dupre, link between art and religion
symbol negatives
- cupitt, RE lang is a symbol of our feelings not external being
- hick, how does a symbol participate
- Randall, symbols tell us no truths, don’t bridge epistemic distance
- logical positivism
- Macquarie. clouds as sign of rain. no. they intrinsically participate
- fundamentalists
- Edwards, no factual content