plato & aristotle Flashcards
plato’s teacher ?
Socrates (469-399bc)
Plato’s birth and death date?
427-347bc
Plato’s student ?
Aristotle (384-322bc)
Socrates key quote:
I cannot teach anybody anything
I can only make them think
plato was a rationalist, what does this mean?
opposite to empiricist
believed certain truths about the universe were knowable by mind alone
believed humanity’s greatest power was that of reason ( what animals lack)
people do bad things when using emotion over reason
Realm of the forms?
where a perfect form of everything exists. e.g. The ideal chair
they are permanent and non material ( spiritual )
we long for permeance of the forms and always dissatisfied with the transience of the world.
this is why a cake I bake will cease to exist (eaten or decay) and is only permanent in the forms
what’s our relationship to the forms?
Plato says our souls belong naturally in the realm of the forms,the realm of reality. we are trapped in bodies and born into this world and the consequence of this is forgetfulness. We forget about the realm of the forms but remember glimpses of it. I can aspire to make the ideal cake and the more you reflect on the concept the clearer your memory becomes
Plato’s two realms ?
1- realm of the forms ( spiritual souls and true beings )
2- realm of appearances ( the world where things look more or less like their originals in the realm of the forms
hierarchy of forms: form of the good?
the sun equivalent - highest of forms
Below it come other higher forms like beauty
And below these are the individual forms of chairs,cakes and all other objects etc
Plato’s view on perfection
Eternity is part of perfection as perfection cannot be destroyed so the forms are perfect versions of inferior things
Plato’s view on will
Like the Greeks didn’t believe in such a thing for if we had the knowledge we would always do the right thing. Plato would explain wrongdoing as the result of ignorance or incomplete knowledge, the same would go for pursuing material things as this means you’re ignorant of the true good in the realm of the forms
The allegory of the cave ?
the shadow world subjected to the prisoners is their reality ( low level awareness on simile of the divided line )
When prisoner is released he sees the real objects and learned what previously believed was an Illusion, at last able to look at the fire. ( represents sun ).. form of the good Difficult due to only seeing shadows before. Ascent to the outside world represents philosophical enlightenment. Mocked by fellow prisoners if revealed the truth parallels how those with true insight won’t be understood by those without referencing Socrates murder
Aristotle’s objections
- if forms were so essential to true understanding why don’t doctors and politicians study them
- no practical value, perfect health doesn’t exist for that is different to a 70 yr old vs the youth
- practical knowledge is learned through observation not intellect
- ft
Other objections ?
- no empirical evidence
- karl popper: Plato can’t find certainty in a world of continual change so he is determined to find it somewhere else
- empiricist say other than sense experience we know nothing about the world a priori
Plato’s idea outlined in republic
Only philosophers see through appearances so in his version of democracy only philosophers are fit to rule