nature/attributes of God Flashcards
asking whether the concept of god is…
coherent
omnipotence - descartes argues for
voluntarism
what do voluntaristic theories argue and believe
voluntaristic theories argue that god can do the logically impossible
they believe that everything comes from God and so everything is dependent on god - including logic
descartes example of logically impossible thing that God could do
4+4=9
descartes - why did god create logic
god created logic to help humans understand the world but god can conceive of higher things
descartes quote
“it would be rash to think that our imagination reaches as far as his power”
descartes conclusion. logic for humans is a …
limitation, but not a limitation for God on which all things including maths and logic depend.
thus, the rules of logic are decided by God and then emanate from his mind
evaluation of voluntarism
self defeating
voluntarism is self defeating
- if it is possible for god to make 4+4=9, then it must be possible for 4+4=9
- if it is possible, it is not logically possible
- yet voluntarism says that god can do the logically impossible. but if this is followed through, then nothing is logically impossible
- therefore the idea that god can do the logically impossible is meaningless because nothing is logically impossible
descartes response to self defeating argument
4+4=9 is logically impossible, but god can do it.
but logic itself would argue that if it can be done then it cannot be logically impossible
evaluation of voluntarism
undermines theodicies
theodicies and solutions to the problem of evil and suffering usually argue that God cannot take away evil without also taking away:
1. gods justice
2. human free will
3. opportunities for growth
but if god can do the logically impossible, he should be able to take away evil and suffering wile maintaining justice, free will and opportunities for growth
theodicies and solutions to the problem of evil and suffering usually argue that god cannot take away
- gods justice
- human free will
- opportunities for growth
conclusion of evaluation - voluntarism undermines theodicies
either god is not omnipotent, or god does not exist
if he is omnipotent, then he is not the god of classical theism
omnipotence - aquinas
aquinas argued that the correct definition of omnipotence was the ability to do any logically possible thing
he argued gods power is founded on gods infinite divine nature, which “possesses within itself the perfection of all being”. therefore, gods omnipotence can only bring about things consistent with the perfection of being
aquinas quote
“it is better to say that such things cannot be done, than that god cannot do them”
even though god cannot create logically impossible things, that is not a limitation of his omnipotence, once properly understood as “power founded on the perfection of being”
(doing logically impossible things would be an imperfection)
evaluation of aquinas
the paradox of the stone
can god create a weight so heavy that he cannot pick it up?
it is not logically possible for god to create a weight so heavy he cannot pick it up.
but if he does, then thereis something he cannot do: pick up the stone
if he cannot make such a stone then there is something he cannot do: make the stone
these are not logical impossiibilities and therefore they count against aquinas’ view of omnipotence
it is logically impossible for god to be able to create a weight so heavy that he cannot pick it up because god is able to do anything logically possible
god would be able to pick up any weight, so it must be logically impossible for God to make a weight he cannot pick it up.