MRI lec 2 Flashcards
what is subtraction logic?
An idea originally proposed by Donders (1868) to infer cognitive processes from reaction times.
Different tasks contain different cognitive processes. if you subtract the reaction time from one task and another it will give you the reaction time for the process not overlapping in both.
What do we get with subtraction logic
An estimate for the duration of a cogntiive process
How does fMRI apply a similar approach to subtraction logic (a behavioural thing)?
- Add an experimental manipulation and compare to activity without manipulation.*
- Conditions should only differ by the inclusion or exclusion of a* single mental process. Activation – BOLD response – linked to that single mental process.
how can we control the mental operations carried out by n in the scanner?
- manipulate the stimulus - best for automatic mental processes (e.g., stim colour)
- manipulate the task - the instructions given to n for the same stimulus. best for controlled mental processes (a top down element involved)
- do NOT manipulate both at the same time. change 1 keep ither constant
What confounds did Malach et al., 1995 take into account in their study
- familiarity of object - can name one
- eye movements - might just reflect activation of eye movments
- visual features - the brightness, contrast, spatial frequency
- attention - one condition simply more interesting, not related to the object itself
How did Malach et al., (1995) take into account these confounds
study 2 - familiarity
- showed n objects that were unfamiliar sculptures
- not nameable
- nos semantic meaning
study 3 - differences in low-level features
- match the low-level features
- how bright the object is
- match the luminance values by pixel across stimuli
- ensure the average is same
study 4 - eye movements
- fixation cross in middle
- controlled for eye movements
What area did Malach et al., 1995 discover
They identified an area specifically to object perception. the LOC
1 issue of subtraction logic
the assumption that simply inserting one process into a task is questionable.
- Adding manipulation - to task or stimulus - often also changes other processes.
- this is called an interaction, the addition of one process interacts with another
What are some general confounds we see with fMRI especially with visual perception
- differences in low-level features
- attentional confounds
- eye movement confounds
how can you tend to eye movement confounds in fRMI
one condition elicits more/difficult eye movments
- fixation cross, or measure eye movements by eye-tracking devices compatible with fMRI.
- Could then check if eye movements were similar
- or use data as a confound predictor in statistical model when you analyse your model
How can we tend to confounds with low level features in fRMI
simply scramble the pixels of stimulus picture in comparison condition (kourtzi & Kanwisher 2000)
How can we tend to confounds with attention in fRMI
One condition more difficult/interesting.
- asking n to passively view stuff = always problematic.
- Could include a task. i.e. detect repetitions of stimuli.
- equates attentional demands.
How can we tend to motor confounds in fRMI
one condition requires more/different responses
- keep motor commands comparable across conditions
BIG confound: comparing process X to a rest condition
to showcase problematic nature:
Example: reaching task - rest = visual stimulus
- but lots of different processes are involved
- compared to if they were doing nothing
- all these activated but doesn’t mean that they are all specific to the task
- in papers you see that “this task activated the fronto-parietal-temporal etc” but this isnt meaningful
- not meaningful to compare a task even a simple task tot doing nothing - because theres just too much going on
Why are rest periods important in fMRI research?
- allows the hemodynamic response to return to baseline - useful for analysis altough not necessary
- BOLD responses summate linearly
- so you could just disentangle them anyways
- but somtimes its clearner to have a period where nothing is on the screen so the influx of fresh blood has happened and goes back to normal
- nice for n to have a break
* particularly good if you have a demanding taks - rest condition helps you dissociate an activation vs deactivation effect
* default mode network
What is the default mode network ?
- brain network active when we do nothing
- indicates the brain is never idle
DMN
- it’s a network that stretches along midline of your brain
- really sits in the midline - above the corpus callosum (PPC, LP) and stretches to the medial prefrontal cortex (Fox and Raichle 2007)
DMN = deactivated when you do something - task < rest
Other areas = activated when you do a task - task > rest
What’s the big problem with the default mode network? whys it vital we include rest?
imagine 2 conditions: A and B
- condition A has a stronger signal than condition B
- don’t know if this difference - due to A MORE activated than B
- or if A LESS deactivated than B
including rest gives us an indication of baseline activity and THEN we can disentangle this. so this is
How can factorial designs handle the issue of confounds better than binary designs
- study the comparison between A and B across different levels of our variable
- an efefct detected across multiple comparisons = very reassuring that the initial effect is not driven by confounds
- interaction effects = very helpful to develop theories
Discuss a factoral design study and how this helped develop a theory?
Sugiura et al (2005)
- 2 x 2 factorial design used
- Compared** **places** vs **objects
- Tested this comparison for two other things:
- familiar places (their office) + familiar objects (their bag)
- unfamiliar places (strangers office) + unfamiliar objects (strangers bag)
finding a consistent difference across both these conditions then the results are quite reassuring
once you have defined conditions and set up your design, how do we present objects?
Different ways
Block design
- Trials blocked into clusters of ONE TYPE of thing
- block place pictures together, rest, block pictures of face pictures together
event-related design
- separate single trials or single events
- place, rest, object, rest, object again, rest, place etc.
- can be done rapidly – becomes “rapid ER design”
- Mixed design - can put these together*
- blocks of random distribution of mixed stimuli
jittering
- randomise the rest period in between events
- i like that one
Why should you use jittering /
Complex statistical reason why you should do this
- two conditions shouldn’t be anti-correlated
- would be a problem for your statistical model
- shouldn’t be the case that condition A is always on and condition B is always off
- the BOLD response elicited
- sometimes they should overlap
Advisable to change the duration of your rest period.
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Design parameters
- block design
- event related design
Describe 1 fMRI run: block design
- have different blocks (e.ge of faces)
- face block - 14s rest - house block - 14s rest
- etc for about 10-20 blocks
- rest - the fixation period between blocks is very important
how many runs would we normally see in an fMRI experiment
5-10 runs
Within the same run should you contain the two conditions you want to compare, OR should you have 1 run one condition (e.g., faces) and the other run the other condition (e.g., houses)
they should both be contained within the same run
the order of conditions per run should be randomised
how long would a fMRI scanning session last on average
1 hour
what other scan do we need as well as the fMRI scan from n
We need a structural scan of n too to overlay the fucntional data on