Monarchian Modalists v. Hippolytus and Tertullian Flashcards
What is the two points of a 2-Stage Logos theology?
- Word resides in the heart of God; His own mind and thought; before the Word was generated
- Begot His Word; uttered; after the Word was generated
What is the strengths and the weakness of a 2-Stage Logos theology?
- Weakness is that the word doesn’t exist separately before it is generated.
- Strength is unity at stage one and diversity at stage 2
According to Theophilus, where did “the Word, that always exists” reside prior to creation (“before anything came into being”)?
…within the HEART OF GOD. For before anything came into
How does Theophilus conceive of the Word of God prior to creation?
That is to say, “before anything came into being” the Word was God’s what?
being He had Him as a counselor, being His own mind and thought.
The second-stage of the existence of the Logos is usually tied to the activity of Creation. “When God wished to make all that He determined on,” what does Theophilus say he did?
He begot this Word, uttered, the first-born of all creation
What passage from scripture does Theophilus quote in order to substantiate his understanding of the Word’s existence as having two stages?
And hence the holy writings teach us, and all the spirit-bearing [inspired] men, one of whom, John, says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God” (Jn 1:1a-b)
What charge did Callistus “publicly [issue] in the way of reproach to (Hippolytus’ party)”?
“Ye are Ditheists,”
According to Hippolytus, Callistus alleges “that the Logos himself is Son, and that himself is Father; and that though denominated by a different title, yet that (in reality) He (God) is ____. And he maintains that the Father is ____ and the Son _____ , but that they are _____ .”
one indivisible spirit
not one person
another
one and the same
What is Callistus’ argument?
Different titles don’t mean the parts of the trinity are actually different and that God is one indivisible spirit
Callistus affirms “that the Spirit, which became incarnate in the virgin, is” what?
…not different from the Father, but one and the same
Callistus interprets the scriptural terms “Son” and “Father” in relation to the person of Jesus Christ. To what does the term “Son” refer, and what does Callistus believe the “Father” to be?
Son = humanity of Jesus Father/Spirit = divinity
- this doesn’t work because that would mean that the Father suffers on the cross (Hippolytus argues against Callistus)
Hippolytus reveals with whom he identified the term “Son”. It is not with the body of Jesus Christ, as did Callistus, but with whom?
Son= the Word
To what specifically do the terms “Word” and “Son” refer according to Hippolytus in Noet 15?
The Word = the preexistence before the incarnation
Son = “word” and humanity; indicates the Word is now incarnate; divine and human
(Hippolytus plays down the significance of Jesus’ humanity; less human than God)
What are Tertullian’s three main points in his discussion on trinitarian relations?
- God is one b/c he has unity of substance; one being
- The “mystery of the economy” disposes unity into Trinity; 2nd stage diversity; the one must become three
- One God admits of plurality without division
What is the illustration that Tertullian provides to counter the Monarchian argument that the sole rule of God requires God to be only One in number and not Three
A Monarchy