Midterm 2 Flashcards
How do we arrive at the data that goes into our understanding of physiology?
- Measuring primary afferent fibers themselves
- Electrophysiological Recording of Primary Afferent Fibers
- This is the only thing that can be done in humans
How can we conduct an Electrophysiological Recording of Primary Afferent Fibers?
- Technique: microneurography
- Microneurography is very rarely done
- You go into the foot or the leg and you poke a recording electrode directly into C fibers and you can record their activity
- We can’t go any higher than this level in humans because it’s too invasive
- People will let you poke them in their leg but not in their spine
What’s microneurography?
Electrophysiological Recording of Primary Afferent Fibers
How do we conduct an Electrophysiological Recording of Dorsal Horn Cells?
- With rodents under anesthetic
- Should always be a little worried about what the anesthetic is doing to the data
- Recording from neurons in the Dorsal Horn
- These are 2nd order neurons
- Not primary afferent, they’re receiving the input from the primary afferent neurons and receive input from primary afferents that are arising from a particular part of the body
- Technique:
- Find a neuron in the receptive field of the part of the body you want to measure (in slide it’s the left dorsal hip of rodent)
- Reasonable chunk of skin
- This is the part of the body that if you poke it’ll respond
- Recording electrode is in the spinal cord
- Track action potentials per time
- The dorsal horn neuron is tracking the temperature
- The higher the temperature, the more noxious it is and the more firing there is
- Press is more than brush and pinch is more than press and brush
- Also responding to heat
- Neuron is not specific to mechanical or heat, it’s responding to both
What are the Second-Order Projection (Spinothalamic Tract - STT) Neurons Relevant to Pain
- Major dorsal horn projection neuron types:
1) Wide dynamic range neuron (WDR) - Has input from A-betas, A-deltas, Cs
- Input from large and small fibers
- Seems to be positive (+) and negative (-) input
- A-Beta, A-Delta and C all excite the spinothalamic tract neuron (T-neuron), but A-Beta also inhibits it
- The dynamic range responds to innocuous in addition to noxious stimuli
2) Nociceptive-specific neuron (NS) - Has A-deltas and Cs (no A-betas)
- Everything seems to be positive (+)
- Both excite the spinothalamic tract neuron (T-neuron)
- Because it’s only getting excitement from A-deltas and Cs, they call it NSN (nociceptive specific neurons)
3) Low-threshold mechanosensitive neuron (LTM) - AKA “silent nociceptors”
- Only respond to mechanical stimuli
- Input to the LTM neurons: A-betas (large fibers)
- Touch neurons
- There’s evidence that after injury (inflammation or nerve damage), these LTM neurons suddenly can register info in the noxious range too
- They can add-on after injury and turn what would’ve been touch info into pain (what allodynia is)
- The touch neurons suddenly turn into pain neurons and now when they fire they send pain signals to the brain
- Silent nociceptors: before injury they aren’t nociceptors (they’re silent), but after injury they turn into nociceptors
Describe the Electrophysiological Recording of Anterior Cingulate Cells
- Anterior Cingulate: Limbic system emotional brain region
- Responsible for pain unpleasantness
- Not related to the location of the pain
- Often lights up in FMRI studies
- Can measure activity of nociceptive neuron in the anterior cingulate gyrus by placing electrode in neuron (on slide it’s a lamina V pyramidal neuron) then squeezing the rodent on different parts of the body and measure how much the neuron is firing per second
- Responses to painful mechanical stimuli show a whole-body receptive field for this neuron
- It doesn’t matter what part of the body you squeeze, that anterior cingulate will fire -> the receptive field of that anterior cingulate cell is the entire body
- Recording electrode is just a very thin glass tube with fluid in it
- After they’re done with the recording, they can put a dye through the tube which goes into the neuron and stains it dark
Describe Counterirritation
- AKA Diffuse Noxious Inhibitory Controls/Conditioned Pain Modulation/Heterotopic Noxious Conditioning Stimulation (all of its names)
- The idea that pain in one place can inhibit pain in another place
- A thing that’s been known to humanity for a long time
- People know this to be true
- Ex: getting punched in the arm relieving a headache
- 1st people who studied it were in France and called it DNIC
- Then was called Conditioned Pain Modulation (CPM - does not refer to conditioning learned in psych)
- Most people call it this today
- The strength of the CPM represents how well your descending modulatory systems are working
- If you have a lot of descending modulation, an effective way of inhibiting pain endogenously (in your own body) then this will be reflected in having a lot of CPM
- Not having CPM is a risk factor for developing chronic pain
- If you’re injured and are unable to inhibit the pain, this is what gives you the disease
- Because CPM is non-invasive, it’s a good behavioural proxi in humans of the state of descending modulation
- There’s a lot of variability in CPM
- 60% of people have CPM
- 20% of people have no change
- 20% of people get worse
Describe CPM experiments
- In a CPM experiment, you have 2 pain stimuli
- You have the test stimulus that you want to see the change in
- You also have the conditioning stimulus (another pain stimulus)
- Ex: heat and cold stimuli
- Get person’s rating of the pain
- Typical experiment: hot stimulus on one arm and then putting other arm in cold water and then presented with hot stimulus on arm again
- The presence of cold pain on your right arm made the heat pain on your left arm less intense
Describe Chalaye et al. (2014) comparison of CPM in healthy controls and fibromyalgia patients
- Take the ratings of pain stimulus before the conditioning stimulus
- The healthy controls overall have CPM
- Fibromyalgia patients don’t have CPM
- Maybe the problem is that they’re unable to inhibit that pain info with descending modulation
- Has been replicated many times
Describe Yarnitsky et al. (2012) study on CPM
- Measured CPM in the laboratory for a bunch of patients that were about to go under a drug for pain
- Y axis: how well the CPM worked
- If it worked well, the patients’ CPM will be below 0 (analgesia)
- If it got worse, the patients’ CPM will be above 0 (hyperalgesia)
- Most patients in their study are above 0 because they are likely to have chronic pain meaning they don’t have analgesia but instead have hyperalgesia
- Drug efficacy = how well the drug worked
- There was a positive correlation between CPM and drug efficacy such that the drug worked better in people who didn’t have CPM or had hyperalgesia instead of analgesia (in people who had impaired CPM) and it worked worse in the people who did have CPM
- Why?
- If the drug itself is working on descending modulation and your descending modulation is already working just fine, then maybe the drug won’t work on anything
Describe Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS)
- The placement of electrodes on your skin in the general location of your skin
- Tiny bit of current, not an electric shock
- Enough current to make the neurons under the electrode fire action potentials they wouldn’t have otherwise fired
- The reason TENS is thought to work comes from gate-control theory
- The terminals of A-betas are closer to the epidermis than the A-deltas and Cs
- The purpose of conventional TENS is to activate non-nociceptive cutaneous afferents (A-beta) without concurrent activation of nociceptive (A-delta and C) or muscle afferents
- The TENS unit is putting just enough electricity to be absorbed in the skin just far enough to activate A-betas but not the A-deltas and C fibers, so it doesn’t cause pain
- Helps with pain because it’s providing touch to your painful arm which helps inhibit pain
- TENS units help (but not amazing)
- It can be explained directly off of gate-control
Describe changes after injury (injured vs uninjured fibers)
- Nerve damage is ultimately physical destruction either in part or in whole of nerve fibers that would otherwise be sending afferent info about pain
- If all the nerve fibers that are taking this info from one part of the body to the brain are injured, what you produce is phantom limb pain (because it’s a complete nerve amputation of the limb, even if the tissue is still there)
- Phantom limb pain is pretty rare
- What’s much more common is pain from partial nerve damage (some are crushed or severed and some are completely fine)
- Ex: the 3 spinal nerves that connect to the hind paw of a rodent (L4, L5, L6) -> connect to sciatic nerve (nerve leaving from your foot and goes to your foot)
- If we sever just L5, all the nerve fibers in this nerve will degenerate
- But nerve fibers from L4 and L6 are still alive
- Where’s the pain coming from? Is it coming from the nerves that are dying or from those that are alive?
- Good evidence for both
- You can get pain from having too few primary afferents or too many or from dying ones changing the function of the ones that are still alive
- Factors released during Wallerian degeneration of the injured fibers may affect function in uninjured nerve fibers
- Commingling of injured and uninjured nerve fibers also occurs in peripheral target tissues such as skin
What are the 2 types of pain sensitization?
1) Peripheral sensitization
- Happens in the periphery
- Things that are released into the tissue that receives the injury
- Inflammatory soup: a soup of different molecules that end up activating nociceptors to fire more than the tissue damage would predict
2) Central sensitization
- Sensitization that occurs in the CNS
- Either in the DRG or in the spinal cord
- Gene transcription, then reversing inhibition, then enhancing synaptic strength (windup LTP), peptide up regulation
Does pain habituate overtime?
- Other sensations habituate while pain sensitizes
- Perception of pain gets higher overtime (the longer the sensation is there)
Describe the peripheral sensitization of pain
- Using skin-nerve preparation, can run peripheral sensitization tests
- Ex: can use a nano-stimulator to stimulate the receptive field and record from it
- Ex: in one study they studied the number of impulses per second before giving bradykinin (BK) and after they gave BK
- Found more impulses per second after giving BK
- They also applied a thermode to the patch of skin from skin-nerve preparation and started at ~30 degrees and then amped up the heat
- Number of impulses per second that the individual nociceptor had fired
- Found that it doesn’t really start to get going until you get to around 40 degrees
- Found that the stimulus response curve to temperature has shifted to the left after BK
- Seeing both allodynia and hyperalgesia electrophysiologically
- Plateaus at nociceptors maximum firing rate
- The same heat stimulus causing more firing in the nociceptor
- More firing in the nociceptor = more pain
- Only difference in these 2 conditions is the BK
- BK is able to get the nociceptor to fire faster and get it to fire to stimulus it wouldn’t fire to at all
What’s skin-nerve preparation?
- You take a piece of skin that you carefully rip off from an anesthetized animal and you get the skin while the animal’s still alive and you tease out a nerve fiber that would have been running from the skin to the DRG to the spinal cord and you can put this in a bath and record from it
- For a few hours, everything is more or less physiological as far as we can tell
- Can run tests from it
What’s the central challenge of studying pain vs cancer?
- The subjectivity of pain
- Cancer is perfectly objective
- Can measure the tumour
- There’s nothing obviously objective to measure with pain
Describe the stages of objectivity an subjectivity and how Noam Chomsky depicts it
- Objective = verifiable
- Subjective = emotional
- Most objective to most subjective:
1. Chemistry
2. Biochemistry
3. Biology
4. Medicine
5. Psychology
6. Anthropology
7. History
8. Biography
9. Novel
10. Epic
11. Lyric - “Take, say, physics, which restricts itself to extremely simple questions. If a molecule becomes too complex, they hand it over to the chemists. If it becomes too complex for them, they hand it to biologists. And if the system is too complex for them, they hand it to psychologists … and so on until it ends up in the hands of historians or novelists.” - Noam Chomsky
- “Art reduces to sociology which reduces to psychology”
How can we study fatigue objectively and subjectively?
- Subjective: feelings of tiredness with a physical appearance, ex:
- Heavy feeling in the body and head
- Tensed feeling in the body
- Mild pain somewhere in the body
- Objective: any practice induced reduction in the ability to exert muscle power or force, attributable to:
- Impairment of muscle fibers
OR - A decline in motorneuron input
- Ex: give fatigued person a hand grip and they won’t be able to use it as well
Describe the main pain rating scales
1) Verbal Pain Intensity Scale (aka Verbal Rating Scale - VRS)
- You pick an adjective that you think most identifies your pain (ex: no pain, mild pain, moderate pain, severe pain, very severe pain, worst possible pain)
- You could turn these into numbers
- Problem: you would have to accept the fact that the difference between mild and moderate is the same as moderate and severe
- We don’t know if this is true in people’s minds
2) 0-10 Numeric Pain Intensity Scale (aka Numeric Rating Scale - NRS)
- Numeric rating scale is almost always an 11 point scale
- The producers of Big Hero 6 made the big mistake of making a 1-10 scale rather than a 0-10 scale accounting for when people aren’t in pain
- Uses 2 adjectives = pegs
- Need to describe what a 0 is and describe what a 10 is and then let them pick a number
- Everyone agrees on 0 pain
- Adjectives on the 10 depends
- Use of different pegs might make a difference
- People aren’t always thinking about it in a clear way and it’s hard to do
- How much pain can I imagine? What is the worst pain?
- Between subjects, scales are terrible
- There’s no way to tell whether your 4 is my 4
- Where scales tend to work: if you told me your pain is a 4 but last week it was a 6, this is useful info
- It’s hard to believe your interpretation of the scale has changed since last week
- People generally give the same rating over and over again (reliable)
3) Visual Analogue Scale (VAS)
- Arguably the best
- Horizontal line with “no pain” on one end and “worst possible pain” on the other end
- Ask people to put a vertical line through the horizontal line where your pain is
- Initially without number (researchers would use ruler on 10cm line to measure their line)
- Not giving Ps a number
4) “FACES” Scale
- Has faces with numbers and written descriptors beneath all illustrating different levels of pain
- Pediatric purpose
- Words aren’t for the kids but for adults to explain it to kids
- Kids understand pictures of people that are unhappy
- Ask them to point to the picture that’s like how they’re feeling
Why is the VAS better than the NRS?
- People remember the number they gave you last time and they might want to be sending you a message
- Ex: if they gave you a 6 and they didn’t get the prescription they wanted, then they’ll amp it up to a 9 to get their prescription
- Or they feel bad for doctor trying and give a lower number to show there’s some improvement in pain when there isn’t
- You can sort of memorize where you drew the line but it’s not as accurate
- More pure
What’s the potential problem with the FACES Scale pegs?
- Face 0 smiling: the opposite of pain isn’t happiness, the opposite of pain is neutralness
- You can not have pain and not be happy
- New face of scales start neutral and get worse
What are some other issues with rating scales?
- Questions you’re asking:
- Ex: when? (right now, average in the last week, maximum in the last week, etc.)
- How could patients average their pain levels in the last week
- Asking them very difficult questions
- Issue of context:
- In what context? (at rest, when standing, in the morning, etc.)
- Often with pain syndrome, what you’re doing greatly influences your levels of pain
- You can ask people specifically in particular contexts
- Can you even explain to people what you’re asking them to do:
- Issues with “pegs” (“worst possible pain”, “worst pain imaginable”, “pain as bad as it can be”, “unbearable”, “excruciating”, etc.)
- Ex: trying to explain worse possible pain in English to someone who doesn’t speak English or trying to explain it to a kid
What’s the function of rating scales?
- We need ratings
- Ex: if I want to know how much your back hurts, then I’ll ask you with a rating scale