Lumbopelvic Spine Exam - Lecture 1 Flashcards
KNOW: Herniated discs / stenosis can both cause radiculopathy
Why might a tight iliopsoas cause back pain?
Because it originates on those lumbar discs
KNOW: Low back can refer down into the hip
Triple A can refer to the lower back and is a pulsatile force
Just to the left of the umbilicus
* IF I can feel a pulse more than 3 fingers out its greatly distended out
* Or if you can see it pulsing
1 organ visceral referal pattern for LBP
Kidney
(urinary track can also refer in the groin area)
KNOW: Cauda equina syndrome / Vascular claudication / limb threatning ischemia are all capiable of causing LBP (and are red flags)
All red flags for LBP
KNOW
KNOW: Fracture S/S (Low back)
* Midline tenderness at level of fracture
* Bruising
* LE neurological deficits (new or significantly worsened = red flag)
* Evidence of increased thoracic kyphosis (sets them up for a wedge fracture)
* Loss of function or mobility
* Most common at T11, T12, and L1
Organ refferal
KNOW: kidney refferal would be a good differential diagnosis for greater trochanteric pain syndrome
KNOW: If they have low back pain w/ LE symptoms think cauda equina but then quickly try and rule it out
How do we rule cauda equina in? (5)
Bowel and bladder disturbances (starting or stopping flow or fecal incontinence)
Saddle paresthesia (groin / medial thighs)
Sexual disturbances (inability to maintain and erection or inability to ejactulate)
Sensory motor deficits in the feet (bilatearl foot numbness)
Weak DF, toe extension, ankle PF weakness (gait disturbances)
* Note - the dysfunction is further down so they will have greater hip flexion to adjust for these weakened muscles that are lower down
* actively hip flex and throw leg out
Refer out if positive (this is a red flag)
check dermatomes and myotomes for these pts
Claduication is what?
Compressive event in vessle (narrowing or occulusion of vessels)
If its higher up then were going to have symptoms down the chain (cutting off the garden hose)
Vascular Claudication symptoms: (4)
Relieved w/ resting (never present when resting)
**Starts when exercising **
Aching or burning in leg muscles (not getting enough BF)
Sitting position does not change symptoms
* does not matter what positon they’re in when they’re exercising - its just moving for a certain amount of time brings on those symptoms
Normally its a set amount of time with movement that brings on symptoms
Is stenosis more about activity level or position of the spine?
Position of the spine
What makes spinal stenosis worse flexion or extension?
Extension - closes down on the spinal n
What makes disc issues worse flexion or extension?
Flexion
Two-Stage Treadmil test
* Level treadmil for 10 minutes
* Then incline treadmil 15 degrees for 10 minutes - this causes the lumbar spine to become more flexed
* If they have lumbar stenosis it should subside because they are in a flexed position (neurogenic claudication - something is occluding the n)
* If the symptoms don’t change were thinking its more vasculogenic (vasculogenic cluadication) in nature
If the pt is doing a two stage treadmil test and the treadmil is raised 15 degrees and symptoms go away what am I thinking they have and why? (test question)
Lumbar stenosis (neurogenic claudication)
Because extension makes it worse and we put them in a flexed position which took away their symptoms
If pt is doing a two stage treadmil test and the treadmil is inclined 15 degrees and the pts symptoms remain constant. What am I thinking it is? Why? (Test question)
Vasculogenic cluadication
Because if it was neurogenic cluadication that incline should’ve reduced symptoms (taken the perssure off the nerves) however relieve pressure meaning its more vasculogenic claudication in nature
What is acute limb threatening ischemia?
Some kind of ischemia that blocks the vessels quickly and causes blood not to flow down them
Is acute limb threatening ischemia rare?
Yes
Does Acute Limb threatening ischemia come on quickly or slow
Very quickly
Whats the best way to check for acute limb threatening ischemia?
Check for a pulse - if they don’t have one rule this in
6 P’s that come on w/ Acute Limb threatening ischemia
Not out practical just kind of know what these are for test
1) Pain at rest - not consisten w/ vasculogenic claudication
2) Pallor (paleness)
3) Pulseless
4) Parasthesia
5) Paralysis
6) Perishing cold - because they no longer have BF to that limb and won’t have the warmth fromt hat blood
KNOW: Will have an acute immediate onset - will proably be in an atheltic sport not out pt (because they won’t have time to make it to u in OP)
Red flag call 911
Whats a good way to differeintaite acute limb threatening ischemia from vascular claudication?
w/ limb threatening ischemia they will have pain at rest and but they will have no pain at rest w/ vascular cluadication
What would you do for someone w/ vascular claudication
Not a 911 call
We would put them on a walking program where they walk to the onset of symptoms then rest then walk again once symptoms leave
NOTE: This is something blocking the vessel - so the increased BF though the vessel needed won’t be able to make it when doing CV activity
Do this EX every single day without missing
Malls are the best place because of the bistanders around just incase something goes wrong
KNOW: When measuring lumbar spine to clear it we do AROM w/ OP
* Just like in the C-Spine we OP halfway through AROM and an axial load
KNOW: Oswestry Disability Index (ODI) is best for LBP
* Higher # = more distability
* out of 50
* 50% = 25 questions answered
Scoring system (very subjective)
Do we over press PT’s w/ pain?
No!!
Dermatone testing: (in neuro screen)
* NEVER DONE OVER CLOTHING
* Testing side to side back and forth
* have pt close eyes
* say when they feel
* always start on uninvolved side and touch then ping pong back and forth
* not just touch but doing small little arcs in the dermatome pattern
* Great quick screener
KNOW: for myotomes we have them do the action first then we load it
EX: To check L3 we would have them kick leg all the way out
* Then you load it for a period of time (not just one quick second)
* We are checking fatiguability - not just strength - nerves have stored potential energy (stored ACl)
* My goal is to see if it fatigues by slowly loading
* A compressed n is like a compressed garden hose - theres still going to be some water is the more distal end when its compressed - we have to get that water out then check it (thats the stored ACl that were getting out first then seeing if it fatigues)
How many relfexes do we check when doing reflexes for myotome testing?
6 reflexes - looking for it to diminish (getting rid of that stored potential)
KNOW: When doing reflexes make sure you’re supporting them so they’re fully relaxed (the muscle cant be contracting)
KNOW: For clonus were doing a quick extension then holding it in that position and seeing if we get MORE THAN 3 twitches (will happen very quickly)
KNOW: Inverted supinator sign is taken 1-2 finger widths proximal from the radial styloid process