ERG and VEP Flashcards
What kind of ERG would you use for plaquenil retinopathy and what would you see? What kind of VF could you use?
Plaquenil retinopathy looks for damage of outer retina
Use mfERG
ERG would look like Mt St Helens
Could also use 10-2 visual field
What kind of ERG would you use for Glaucoma? What’s the most common tool for seeing structure abnormalities in glaucoma?
Glaucoma affects ganglion cells. Use pERG.
Commonly use OCT for structure
What else can you visualize with ERG?
Glaucoma Plaquenil retinopathy Siderosis Bulbi Genetic defects in children Differentiate RP and CSNB RP has flatter ERG curve
What diseases would you expect to see only a sandcastle tiny peak in ERG (with periphery black)
Tiny sandcastle is caused by being mostly blind. Maybe some tunnel vision
Glaucoma, RP, CSNB, other genetic disorders causing blindness
What diseases would you expect to see lopped off Mt St Helens
Macula affected but periphery may still work
Plaquenil retinopathy
ARMD and Stargardt’s
Macular hole
What might you notice on a gross level in a child with Leber’s Congenital amaurosis?
Gaze disorder
No response to Teller Cards
Stages of Leber’s Congenital amaurosis?
Mild: Looks pretty normal
Moderate: Scleral window over macula
Severe: Widening of window and buildup of pigment around it - might look like RP
What tests could you use on LCA? (2)
ERG: Will be flatline at early age
Fluoroscein: Salt and pepper fundus
What do visually evoked potentials (VEPs) measure?
Objective VAs
How cortex responds to visual stimuli
What structures do VEPs measure?
Activity of cells in visual cortex
Usually V1
2/3 of cells for fovea
What stimuli do you use for VEPs?
Anything that changes Pattern Luminance Color Most common reverse phase checkerboard Decreases in size/VAs
Why would you use a phase reversing checkerboard to get VEPs
Want to stimulate simple cells
Can’t be held steady or not as much stimulation
Flickers
VEP vs ERG. Tell me what would happen with a full retinal stimulus, peripheral stimulus and foveal stimulus
Full retinal: Equal VEP and ERG
Foveal: VEP same as full retinal, ERG is reduced
Again, VEP focuses on V1 which is 2/3 foveal
Peripheral: VEP almost flatlines ERG is same as foveal
In mV, what’s the amplitude of brain noise?
60mV
What voltage does EOG measure?
6mV
What voltage does ERG measure?
1mV
How do you separate background noise in VEP?
To separate background noise, consider that VEP signals take 80ms to get through optic nerve to cortex. Filter out noise of EEG. Zeroes it out to allow you to see VEP