All combined Flashcards
We don’t have the funding or budget for a system like this at this time.
Ultimately there’s not a lot we can do here. If they don’t have money, they don’t have money. But, it’s very unlikely they can’t find 20k for this project - more often this is a sign that we haven’t done a good enough job selling them. Discount, other departments, grants, intro to Bob Heinrich, worst case go to next year’s budget planning.
“IT needs to take a look at this first…”
“Yes of course, IT is always involved but the reason I called you first is because you work with the permit process more closely and would be able to provide feedback on if this is something that can apply to your department. IT is not going to understand the process that you have, can I set up a brief call with you to help you understand if this is a good fit and then I can discuss with IT?”
Not enough time to do the implementation.
Don’t do it all at once. The great thing about Camino is it’s easy to build out little pieces at a time. You could launch guides for a few common projects and then add to it later. We’ve invested in building a really easy-to-use configuration engine, and you’d be surprised how much you can get built out in a few hours. We also have implementation staff who can help and do most/all the work if you’d prefer.
Want Camino to integrate with their existing system.
Usually the concern is that without an integration there will be duplicate data entry by the applicant. This is misguided, because applicants typically use Camino months before they apply for a permit. Entering the same information twice (months apart) is a small price to pay for saving hours of time on a multi-week process. Plus Camino doesn’t collect the same type of information that lives on a permit application.
If the customer is using Camino as an application portal, this objection makes more sense. But even then, many agencies make it work fine. For example you can point them to the Lewiston Case Study - they collect applications in Camino, then transfer them to their existing permit system. It’s a little extra work, but a lot less work than building an integration and the time saved from the Guide more than makes up for it.
The best practice is to use the guide as a way to get the customer to the point of applying for their permit. We all know that there’s a ton of work that needs to happen before somebody should fill out an application. Our guide will get your customer fully prepared, and then when they’re ready to apply they switch to the permit system and do everything else there.
We are swamped with work and our other projects are already behind schedule; I don’t want to burden team with something new
You will have a designated customer success representative, who will handle implementation and gets your projects and workflows into the system. Also see setup note above—with a relatively small upfront investment, you’ll immediately start giving time back to your staff
We already do online permitting. Why do we need this?
We are not just offering an online permit portal - no permit portal offers the features that come with our guide. Many of our customers also have an online permit portal, and are actively using the Permit Guide as a launching pad into the application process. Our Guide provides applicants with a customized checklist of everything they need to do to make their project a reality. Our customers tell us that our solution ensures their residents are much more prepared when they actually apply for their permit—leading to a faster time-to-permit issued.
The Guide doesn’t seem that valuable. I don’t get how we will benefit.
Customers who use the Guide see a 75% reduction in time spent at the counter, a 30% reduction in calls, and much happier customers. Fewer mistakes are made, meaning permits are issued faster and staff spend less time answering questions. This all leads to greater customer satisfaction and material savings in time and money.
We already provide residents with a wealth of information online, such as PDF documents that outline steps for common projects.
Most of the agencies we work with also provided information like this on their website. Even when residents follow these PDF guides, however, we’ve been told many other factors—which are not captured in those documents—may impact their ability to carry out a project. One obvious example is if the resident is located in an area such as a fire or flood zone; our system integrates with your GIS system and therefore would automatically flag if a resident’s specific parcel location presents any impediments to being able to secure a permit. Our customers tell us that transitioning from static PDF documents to our intuitive Permit Guide has drastically cut down on delays in the permitting process.
Even if we provide an online Guide like this, most of our residents are “old school” and just prefer to come into city hall anyway. They prefer talking with a real person.
Santa Clarita and other cities actually installed the Guide on iPad kiosks right next to the permit counter. Now, when residents visit city hall, the permit tech assists them through the process using our Guide. Even through this method, cities save time by ensuring residents are provided with one, objective record of every requirement for their project—and they can download and print a copy to take home. There’s no need to meet with any other permit tech to “fish” for new answers, or call back when they forget something.
M
Metric - Quantifiable measures of value that our solution can provide
E
Economic Buyer - This is the person or department that the money is coming from. Verify that they have overall authority in the buying decision.
D (1)
Decision Criteria + Decision Maker -
• Do you have full understanding of the criteria?
• How will the customer decide
• What process they will undergo to come to that decision?
• Who are the person(s) that need to approve.
◦ Ie: City Manager (name) and City Council.
D (2)
Decision Process -
How to get the approvals through the department? ie:
• Who are the people /personalities that the process must go through
• What are the buying thresholds?
• Does IT need to sign off?
• Does CM and or City Council need to approve?
• What criteria will be evaluated in making a decision?
I
Identify Pain - Needs, challenges and roadblocks. It can be difficult to understand how what we do maps to solving real pain. However, our risk of failure is high if there is no identifiable pain. Therefore, we need to drill down to the root of the problem by getting increasingly specific in our questioning and to the individual personalities we are engaging with.
Questions that we should pose:
• What is going to happen if you don’t deploy an updated system to solve your problem(s)?
• How does the lack of a solution impact you individually?
• Why is this a priority for you and the City Manager?
• What might happen to the department over time if you don’t make this change?
• Why is getting too many phone calls every day a problem?
• What are you not able to do, or that you would like to, if you did not get so many calls, emails or counter visits?
• What happens when this backlog builds up? Do people get upset? Does city council put pressure on the department?
C (1)
Champion -
Person(s) that have Camino’s back, will promote us internally and will reach out to us to give us insights into the process. They act like they are part of Camino’s sales team and proactively inform us if there is risk to our deal.
C (2)
Competition -
• What do they have in place today?
• What else are they looking at?
• Are they considering doing a competitive process?
Applicant Guide - under 30k
ONE YEAR self service 10k | THREE YEAR 8k self / 13k camino
Applicant Guide - 30-50k
ONE YEAR self service 15k | THREE YEAR 12k self / 17k camino
Applicant Guide - 50-100k
ONE YEAR self service 20k | THREE YEAR 16k self / 21k camino
Applicant Guide - 100-250k
ONE YEAR self service 25k | THREE YEAR 21k self / 26k camino
Applicant Guide - 250-500k
ONE YEAR self service 35k | THREE YEAR 29k self / 34k camino
Applicant Guide - 500k-1m
ONE YEAR self service 50k | THREE YEAR 42k self / 47k camino
Applicant Guide - 1m+
ONE YEAR self service 75k | THREE YEAR 63k self / 68k camino
Portal - under 30k
ONE YEAR self service 15k | THREE YEAR 12k self / 17k camino
Portal - 30-50k
ONE YEAR self service 20k | THREE YEAR 16k self / 21k camino
Portal - 50-100k
ONE YEAR self service 30k | THREE YEAR 24k self / 29k camino
Portal - 100-250k
ONE YEAR self service 35k | THREE YEAR 28k self / 33k camino
Portal - 250-500k
ONE YEAR self service 45k | THREE YEAR 36k self / 41k camino
Portal - 500k-1m
ONE YEAR self service 65k | THREE YEAR 52k self / 57k camino
Portal - 1m+
ONE YEAR self service 90k | THREE YEAR 78k self / 83k camino
Camino Led Implementation Includes
75 hrs Year 1 / 25 hrs future years. In future years the package will provide hours to build out additional functionality, make changes to the existing configuration, and train new staff. For this reason Camino Led implementations require a three year agreement.
Needs a custom quote for projects that include:
integrations, System of Record deals, payment processing/fee estimation
Self Service Implementation includes
Kick-off meeting, 5 hrs training, 1 hr/wk email/zoom/phone support first 3 months, 1hr/month after first 3 months, Camino assistance with GIS layer import, access to knowledge base
Does the Guide provide information on setback requirements?
The guide can provide details about any requirements, including setbacks.
Can the Guide provide information on easements, sewer lines, etc.? This information is in our GIS.
Yes, though this may depend on how your GIS is configured. We’re happy to check your layers if you send them.
Can the Guide provide information that isn’t in our GIS?
Yes, the Guide doesn’t solely rely on GIS to provide instructions. It also provides other information that applicants need to prepare for and complete their projects such as forms, data collection, fees, etc.
Can the Guide be used for commercial projects too, and not just residential?
Yes.
Can the Guide handle the volume and workload for a large city?
Yes, this Guide is live in Fairfax County, VA, which has a population of about 1.15 million.
Can the Guide provide information that is currently included in our lengthy plan development and conditional use permit files?
Yes, we would break out the different sections so that applicants can see just the specific requirements, tips, and instructions that apply to their projects.
Will applicant be able to put in their address and see what is pending, submitted and issued?
Yes.