aggreating claims and parties (joinder) Flashcards
what does rule 18 say (basic claim joinder)
its an entierly permissive rule!
says you CAN join other claims!
under rule 18, if you have two claims against the same D do you have to join both claims?
no! rule 18 is permissive – doesnt even matter if the CLAIMS are closely related (dont confuse with rule 13)
what is rule 13 about?
counterclaims
what does rule 13(b) say about counterclaims
parties are always allowed to counterclaim
what does rule 13(a) say about counterclaims
tells us when we are REQUIRED to counterclaim – HAVE TO COUNTER CLAIM WHEN
the claim arises out of the same transaction or occurance as the oppsing party’s claim AND it wont require adding another party over whom the court doenst have jurisdiciton
what is a counterclaim
a claim for relef made against an opposing party after an orginal claim has been made
what are the exceptions to the rule 13a requirements to counterclaim?
see lang of the rule lol but just recognize that there are excpetions to the compulsory claim joinder rule
what are some factors to consider in figuring out if a claim arises under the same transaction or occurnce via rule 13a (compulsory counter claims)
the issue of fact and law in the claims are the same
the same evidence would support or refute the claims and
there is a logical relationship between the claims
who can file a counterclaim
anyone on the receving end of a cliam can fire back a counterclaim
what is rule 18 joinder of claims
tells us that a party may join independent or alternative claims of whatever nature against opposing parties
of courtse all claims need to satsify subject matter jurisdction
jones v ford motor – what test does the court use to deterine if the two cliams come out of the same transaction/occurance to make it compulsory counterclaim under rule 13a ?
P claim for discrimination on disproportionate financing plan for white customers vs black customers
D counterclaims for the defaults on the car payments
P moves to dismiss D’s counterclaim for lack of subject matter jurisdiction
Only way a counterclaim can go to federal court is if there is supplemental jurisdiction
Issue one
MUST ford assert the counter claims (ie is it compulsory or permissive)
Issue two
Is there jurisdiction over permissive counterclaims?
issue one: uses logical relationship test; – the essential facts of the claim must be so logically connected that judical fairness/effeiciency says they should be tried in one suit
While there is a BUT FOR connection between the claims, they are not so closely related
Most courts would think they are connected, but this court is super strict
So these claims are permissive
issue two – only needs a loose facutal connection for supp jurisdction to apply to permssive claims so supp jurisdction does exsist
Ginwright v. Exeter Finance Corp – what test does the court use to determine if the claims came from the same transaction or occurnece to determine of counterclaim was permissble or compulsory
suit against Exeter for excessive calls; exeter countersues for loans
Court concludes the counterclaim is PERMISSIVE
three factor test; some courts say all are needed, others like this case use them as factors to consider
- are the issues of fact and law raised in the calim and counterclaim larely the same
- will substaintially the same evidence support or refuste the claim as well as the counter claim?
- is there any logical relationship between the claim and counterclaim
what is rule 20 permissive party joinder about
determines when a P MAY join other ps in an action or when Ds MAY be jointed in the same action
under rule 20(a)(1) permissive joinder, when may parties be joined (its the same for both d and p)
- the claims asserted by (P) or against them (D) arise out of the same transaction or occurence AND
- There is a question of law or fact common to all parties
what does rule 20(b) protective mesures do in terms of permissive joinder
allows for severence! up to courts discretion