[17] Keitzad merakdin Flashcards
How do we dance infront of the kallah?
- Beit Shammai: ke’mot she’hee
- Beit Hillel: kalah na’eh ve’chasudah
Ketubot 16b-17a
If someone makes a bad purchase from the shuk, it should be praised, acc. to which saying of Chazal…
לעולם תהא דעתו של אדם מעורבת אם הבריות
Ketubot 17a
If a person makes a bad purchase in the shuk, it should be PRAISED, acc. to which saying of Chazal?
לעולם תהא דעתן של אדם מעורבת אם הבריות
Ketubot 17a
What saying was said both to brides and also during semicha of rabbis?
לא כחל ולא שרק ולא פירכוס ויעלת חן
Ketubot 17a
Who danced with 3 hadassim?
R’ Shmuel bar R’ Yitzchak
Ketubot 17a
What phenomenon occurred for R’ Shmuel bar R’ Yitzchak?
Amuda de’nura
Ketubot 17a
Can one give a shoulder ride to the bride?
R’ Acha: if she’s to you like a beam then it’s okay!
Ketubot 17a
If moving along a road, what’s the order of who takes precedence? Between kallah, king, deceased
King > Kallah > Deceased
Ketubot 17a
Which king gave way to a kallah? And how could he do it?
Agrippas
It was a parshat derachim
Ketubot 17a
Can one be mevatel Torah for a bride and deceased?
Yes
מבטלין תלמוד תורה להוצאת המת ולהכנסת כלה
Ketubot 17a
What are the 5 opinions of how many mourners are needed (and one can be mevatel Torah for it)?
- 12,000 + 6,000 announcers
- 12,000, including 6,000 announcers
- People from city gate to the kever
- 600,000 for one has learned Torah and Mishna
- No limit for one who’s taught
Ketubot 17a-b
What is a hinnuma?
- Round chuppa made of myrtles
- Veil
Ketubot 17b
What strange custom would be done for wedding of a betulah in Bavel?
Smearing oil on the heads of the sages
Ketubot 17b
Re. R’ Yehoshua’s din in the seifa of minsha (Ketubot 2:1) - does person A have a chazaka or not? If he DOES have, he SHOULD be believed, if he does NOT, then obviously should NOT be believed!?
Which din of R’ Huna is being relied on here?
He does have a chazaka, for example, 2 years in lifetime of father and 1 year in lifetime of son.
Follows din of R’ Huna that “ein machzikin be’nichsei kattan, afilu higdil”
Ketubot 17b
Can one make an objection about their land NOT in the presence of the machazik? Why?
Yes!
מחאה שלא בפניו הויא מחאה
B/c of …
חברך חברא אית ליה
Ketubot 17b
If mehca’ah she’lo be’fanav HAVYA mecha’ah, why does the mishna say “shalosh aratzot le’chazaka…” (meaning that the machazik cannot get a chazaka)?
B/c assumption is that Yehuda and Galil are in a time of cherem, and the mecha’ah of the original owner does not reach the machazik
Ketubot 17b
