[15-16] R"G, R"Y, shover, wine for betulah

Question 1

What are the three things about which witnesses can testify to prove that woman got married as a betulah?

Answer 1

1. Hinnumah
2. Hair uncovered
3. Giving out of roasted grain

Mishna Ketubot 15b

Question 2

What is the Peh she’assar that R’ Yehoshua agrees to in the Mishna?

Answer 2

A says to B:
* This field belonged to your father, and
* I bought it from him

Mishna Ketubot 15b

Question 3

When does R’ Yehoshua’s Peh sh’assar in the mishna NOT work? I.e. the seifa of the mishna

Answer 3

If there are witnesses that field belonged to the father

Mishna Ketubot 16a

Question 4

How does mishna of Ha’isha she’nitarmelah fit with R’ Gamliel? (It seems to contradict him, as WITNESSES are required here for the woman to believed)

Answer 4

Here it’s a case of Bari vs. Bari (R’ Gamliel believes the woman in first chapter, in case of Bari vs. Shema)

Ketubot 16a

Question 5

What does it mean in the mishna of Ha’isha she’nitarmelah, that R’ Yehoshua “agrees”

Answer 5

Here he holds of a migu, whereas in Chapter 1 he does not (case of mi’sherastani ne’enasti)

Ketubot 16a

Question 6

When does R’ Yehoshua believe in a migu (for the woman)?

Answer 6

When it’s NOT “shor shachut lefanecha”

Ketubot 16a

Question 7

Why in the mishna of Ha’isha she’nitarmelah do we not believe the woman based on Rov (“most women get married as betulot”)?

Answer 7

B/c the fact that there’s no kol here, “itra lah ruba”

Ketubot 16a-b

Question 8

If a women loses her ketubah, can she collect (e.g. by using witnesses that she married as a betulah)?

Answer 8

• R’ Abahu: YES - kotvin shover
• R’ Pappa: NO - she needs witnesses that ketuba destroyed

Ketubot 16b

Question 9

What are the two customs - relating to wine - that would be done at wedding of betulah?

Answer 9

• Pass before her a cup of trumah wine
• Pass infront of her a barrel of wine

Ketubot 16b