The person of Jesus Christ Flashcards
Describe the lessing ditch.
“Lessing ditch”- if the life of Jesus is to be the foundation of someone elses life we need to have a clear distinvtion between what is made up and what jesus might have reasonably done or said.
When when we find that something recorded in the gospel contrasts with our reason, the ugly great ditch of irrationalism shouldnt be crossed - unless we have proof to support a christian claim it should be disregarded.
What does Calvin say about the jesus we see with faith vs historical Jesus?
- The purely historical or rational understanding of Jesus would never reveal Jesus the son of God. With faith, we see Jesus as the pure mirror or reflection of the divine which is necessary in order to know God.
This suggests we need faith to understand Jesus as the son of God
What criticism to Calvin does Wright make?
Wright as a criticism to Calvin- history is treated as an icon. It is like a picture which tells a story, but which need not be tested against reason. This can lead to an antihistorical or sentimental presentation of Jesus
What does Reimarus argue about Jesus?
Reimarus- Christians had invented Jesus as Gods son when in fact he was a Jewish reformer who then became a political extremist, failed and was executed. His disciples made up the resurrection and hoped God would bring about the end of the world.
Explain wrights ideas on the “criterion of similarity”
Wright- “criterion of similarity” – when placed in their Jewish setting, the gospel tells us a great deal about the person of Jesus which is not inconsistent with the Jesus whom Christian’s worship
What do Wrede and Schweitzer believe about Jesus?
Wrede and Schweitzer- The gospels stories were almost certainly made up by the gospel writers. The author of Marks gospel made up a messianic secret where Jesus frequently tells people not to say he is the Messiah to give a pseudo historical reason why he was never considered to be a messiah in his lifetime.
What does Bultmann say about the jesus of history and the jesus of faith?
Bultmann- Jesus of history is less important than Jesus of faith. Bultmann remains sceptical that we know for certain anything at all about the Jesus of history. He refers to demythogising- metaphors of religious experiences were falsely treated as objective facts. We need to strip away the metaphors to recover the original existential experience.
What does Sanders say about the jesus of history and the jesus of faith?
- Jesus of history and Christ of faith are two separate ideas because the world of reason and empirical study is entirely different from the claims of faith.
- “Category error”- he must not move into the world of theology as a historian in the quest to establish the historical Jesus. This would confuse history with faith claims.
- Unlike Butler, Sanders thinks we can have pretty good historical picture of who Jesus was when placed in his Jewish setting, but historical analysis does not suggest he was unique.
- Jesus saw himself as “Gods last messenger before the establishment of the kingdom”
- Jesus considered that the temple would be renewed, and the twelve tributes of Israel would be reassembled
- Jesus was a popular figure among the ordinary people who were attracted to him because of his healings
- Jesus’ vision of society was that there would be major reversal in society where the poor and lowly would have leading places.
- His teachings on violence, miracles, hope for outcasts etc. made him different from people at the time but didn’t make him unique
What knowledge does Jesus have of God?
Discuss their relationship
- The relationship between God and Jesus is mysterious. Jesus calls God “father” and a heavenly voice calls Jesus “son” but Jesus does not use the word “son” himself.
- Jesus knowing God is considered to be an ancient puzzle because if Jesus is God and human at the same time, does that mean that two beings are inhabiting one body? - this causes the rise of the question of whether God has full control of Jesus and whether human Jesus has any free will or say at all. – the council of Chalcedon comes to the conclusion that Jesus must be full God and fully human- hypostatic union
Discuss how human jesus really was.
- In order to save humanity from sin, Jesus had to be divine as only God can save humans. However, if Jesus was God he couldn’t have suffered on the cross as only humans suffer, which would make his crucifixion and resurrection meaningless.
- If Jesus wasn’t God, he couldn’t overcome evil forces. However, if Jesus wasn’t human, he couldn’t overcome these evil forces for humans by sacrificing his life.
- Jesus being both human and God raises questions. Paul writes that humans have a sinful, corrupting nature so if Jesus is human wouldn’t he become corrupted too?
- Bishop Apollinaris worried that a “human mind- that is a changeable mind… is enslaved to filthy thoughts” and so suggested that the Word replaced the human mind and soul with a divine one without taking on humans fallible (being able to make mistakes) nature.
- This raises a question; how could humanity be fully redeemed if not all of human nature was saved?
- Gregory rejects Apollinaris suggestion because it indicated of a ‘half salvation’.
How did the chrches resolve the question of jesus’ humanity and divinity?
- Most Christian Churches including eastern orthodox, catholic and most protestant Churches follow the agreement by the major ecumenical councils. These resolved that Jesus was of the same substance as the Father (homoousios). They also agree that Jesus is acknowledged in two natures which come together in one person and hypostasis. He isn’t a mix or blend.
- “Our Lord Jesus Christ is to u One and the same Son, the self- same perfect in godhead, he self-same perfect in manhood, truly god and truly man” – Bindley
Medieval theology responded with three kinds of knowledge that jesus might have.
Give each and define what it is.
- Knowledge of the divine reality of God, face-to-face, and all the created realities
- An infused knowledge
- Knowledge of life in the normal way of human life
What does Rahner say about human consciousness
How does he solve the problem of Jesus having two consciousnesses?
- Rahner suggests a genuinely human consciousness must have an unknown future in front of it. If Jesus was conscious of the Fathers awareness all the time, he can hardly be called human.
- His solution is to think of an onion. Psychologists tend to describe human’s self-awareness as layered, like an onion. We have deep within us better understandings of our self which are not always on the surface of our consciousness. Jesus’ emotions on the cross would be real if his human self-consciousness was close to the surface and his divine self-consciousness was deep within.
What does O’collins say about the difficulties of answering questions about Jesus’ self knowledge?
- O’Collins challenges the possibility of answering these kinds of questions:
1. It is very difficult to undertake any study of the inner world of any being so trying to make sense of Jesus inner life experiences might be very challenging, especially since he left no writing of his own.
2. Before anyone can say “yes, Jesus knew he was the saviour” a person must first understand the complexity of knowledge and the multi layered structure of how we experience reality (incl. thoughts, emotions etc.). Therefore, it is easier to say that Jesus knew what he was, than for Jesus to actually know what that he was the saviour.
3. Consciousness is not the same as knowledge of a separate object. Knowledge of a separate object takes place without reflection, but consciousness always involved a degree of reflection. - O’Collins concludes that one answer is possible given all these factors: Jesus knew he was in a unique relationship to the Father. He knew his mission was to salivate for all of humanity- these were facts of his consciousness. His awareness of sonship was a self-consciousness and self-presence in which he was aware of his divine reality. He couldn’t observe the presence of God.
Describe what miracle work jesus did.
- In the New Testament, Jesus is shown as being a miracle worker healing the sick and driving out demons (Mark), proving that he is the son of God. An example this is when Jesus disciples were in a fishing boat struggling I the storm and he walked over the water and into the boat. Then, the storm died down.
- Many people today believe that miracles happen today too and are evident of the presence of the Holy Spirit. Some believe that they have witnessed healing miracles.