the nature and attributes of God Flashcards
2 key areas that focus on time
- meta physical questions
- ontological questions
key features of metaphysical questions
-definition: this is what is needed for time to exist
- there are 2 views in this (claimed by Mullin):
—> relational theories: time exists if change exists
—> absolutist theories: change does not need to occur, there just needs to be a being who exists that could change
key features of ontological questions
- definition: looks at how time exists
- Mullin claims there are 3 views here:
1. Presentism: only present exists (past has already gone, future does not exist)-main position
2. Growing block: past+present both exist, not the future bc this hasn’t happened yet
3. Eternalism: past, present, future equally exist- they are all equally present. there is no flow of time, just a matter of perspective— e.g.London still exists even though I am in Bham
scholar view on God’s relationship with time
Mawson:
“the differing views of God’s relations to time have knock-on effects for how omniscience, omnipotent and perfect goodness should be understood”
eternity and the philosophical view of God- what is this?
- view that God’s eternity should be viewed as timeless
- he is a being outside of/transcending time and space
- a temporal
eternity and the philosophical view of God- key features
- relational view of time: time exists if change exists, but God is immutable and doesn’t change, so isn’t ‘in’ time
- temporal language: tl only applies to the universe, not God
- Eternalism: this position accepts eternalism for God, he knows all moments of time as one
- Omniscience: he knows all the things we will do and all events that will occur simultaneously
- Acting: God’s actions all done at once- simultaneous
- Endurantism: god’s identity doesn’t change - has impassibility: God doesn’t have emotions as this would involve change
eternity and the philosophical view of God- why?
- arguably the only position that logically follows from the perfection of God— the only conclusion you can reach. This is because God wouldn’t have all his qualities if he was in time - e.g. to be immutable, you dont change, but if God was in time, this would involve change
Boethius and philosophical view of God
God is eternal because:
- he sees all at once (his presentism is not under the conditions/limits of time like time is for us)
- he is not affected by time- he exists in some form of time that doesn’t change—> this is enabled by his omnipotence
- God can’t change past/future because this doesn’t exist to him: he has “the whole simultaneous and complete possession of eternal life all at once”
Anselm and philosophical view of God
- he is timeless- this enables him to be omnipotent
- god is not constrained by laws of time
- god exists in a 4th dimension —> P,P + F is all at once- this is the eternal present
- every time and space is IN God, not vice versa
Augustine and philosophical view of God
- God is timeless bc Genesis says he created time
- God sees P,P +F simultaneously as one
Aquinas and philosophical view of God
- God is timeless bc he created the world in 1 single timeless act
- no succession for God
- there is a change in how WE experience God, but God himself can’t change: his nature and will doesn’t change but his activity does because this enables people to have a relationship with him
+ve of the philosophical view: God’s nature can be possible
- can be fully omniscient: he fully knows the F, P +P- this is bc they are all available to him as h lives in the timeless present
- can be truly transcendent: beyond time and space not within them BUT he is also still immanent as his knows all time and all things but not by being in time + space
- shows how ‘other’ God is: why he truly is TTWNGCBT + should be worshipped
+ ve of the philosophical view: does not limit god
- God is not bound by the limits of time—>so if god is perfect he is TTWNGCBT
+ ve of the philosophical view: in line with science as time
- bc time is believed to have started when the universe began and will end when /if the universe ends
-ve of the philosophical view: does God have these qualities
- can he be truly immanent if he is outside of time?
- can god really be omniscient if he is not in time- he can only know timeless truths like maths, rather than truths that require you to be in time, e.g. what it is like to eat cake
—> Swinburne: he would simultaneously know all the events of human history at the same time- how can he know 2 everts at the same time when they happened at different times?
-ve of the philosophical view: not the view of God in the Bible
- Swinburne: “The Hebrew bible shows no knowledge of the doctrine of divine timelessness”
- William Hasker: “if God is truly timeless… then how can God act in time”
- Pike: supports this view
-ve of the philosophical view: God responsible for evil?
- is he evil if he knows what will happen and does not help prevent evil?
- if this is the correct view of God (philo) does this mean he can never truly conquer evil bc he isn’t in time?
-ve of the philosophical view: meaningless
- Anthony Kenny + other logical positivists argue a timeless eternity is meaningless and “radically incoherent”
eternity and the biblical view of god- what is this?
- bible shows eternity of God should be understood as everlasting where God exists for all time but always in the present —> he is temporal, not timeless
- arg that the philosophical view is too focused on reason and not enough on revelation
eternity and the biblical view of god- key features
- eternity is everlasting + exists before and after this universe
- absolute position of time: time can exist even with no change, all that is needed is the possibility for change (e.g. before creation, time occurred, and God could have changed things, but he just decided not to)
- critical of Aristotle: arg that God does change- but his essential nature/character does not change - instead an eg of his change is him creating the universe. the change can be understood in a morally neutral way
- There is succession for God- he sees the present fully: bible: “A thousand ages in your sight are but an evening gone”
- How God acts: God interacts with the world- this is the ‘real present’ and was where he responds to prayers…
- Impassibility: God has emotions - but this isn’t a change of his nature/character
- The future: some argue God does know the future as he exists in all time. some (openness theology) argue he doesn’t bc its not possible to logically predict the future- but that this doesn’t limit his omniscience
eternity and the biblical view of god- scholar: Swinburne
- supports everlasting view of God
- God can change his mind (e.g. when God told Isaiah he was going to die, Hezekiah prayed to God and then God increased his life by 15 years)
- doesn’t know our future but can make accurate predictions
- Barth: agrees w/ Sw because the incarnation shows God acts in time
eternity and the biblical view of god: Cahn
- everlasting view and that this doesn’t limit God because the future is not a real thing yet
eternity and the biblical view of god: scholar: Schleiermacher
- everlasting view
- God knows the future in a way that he has accurate predications bc he knows us so well
+ve of eternity and the biblical view of god: God’s nature/character
-God can still transcend time - he just transcends created time (not uncreated) - this is the type of time we experience
+ve of eternity and the biblical view of god: enables humans to be fully free + makes God less responsible
- bc the future isn’t already known and fixed
- God less responsible for evil because he doesn’t know the bad about to happen
+ve eternity and the biblical view of god: god is responsive
- he can respond to prayers in real time — so worship isn’t a waste of time
-ve of eternity and the biblical view of god; God’s nature
- might not be omnipotent: God may be a prisoner of time- Paul Helm says once god created this world, he can’t go back and experience time without this method of measurement
- may not be truly transcendent : if time is without him, how can he transcend time?
- may not be truly omniscient: doesn’t know the future
- is this being truly God? Mawson: “the idea that to be worthy of the name ‘God’, the being in question has to be, well, perfect”- a temporal being is not perfect, or they would be a temporal
- is this God worthy of worship?
Omniscience- what it means
- God knows everything
Omniscience- how it links to other attributes
- this includes omnipresent (present everywhere and absent no where)- this is why he can know everything
- God being a judge(requires knowledge of what people have done in order to assess them)
what does it mean to be all knowing?
- both theistic and classical view accept God to be all knowing —> but understood differently
- there are problems with omniscience: does he know what it is like to be something, such as being scared? does God have practical knowledge, such as how to ride a bike?
- most answer ^ questions by saying: God’s omniscience means God knows everything that is logically possible for a God to know - (both views agree that these problems^ should be rejected bc not necessary for God to know)
- he has perfect knowledge to perfectly be God
omniscience and the classical timeless view:
- claims God knows all past, present and future, but he knows this all as one
omniscience and the classical timeless view: Boethius
- God is timeless + so sees all as one simultaneously as he transcends time because he is “looking upon all out of the infinite”
- God knows the future, but this doesn’t take away from our freedom bc there is a diff between knowing what will happpen and causing it to happen
omniscience and the classical timeless view: Augustine
- God is timeless, knows p,p,f all as one simultaneously