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Waterfield @ Plato

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Love saves us from the “bestial side of our nature” (Plato)

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Plato on the dangers of desire

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Desire is when one has “substituted the body of his beloved for the beauty in it that attracts him” and so has enslaved himself/ trapped himself i.e. plato warns of the dangers of desire -Halperin

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Plato on the pursuit of virtue

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Plato gives no compelling reason for the pursuit of wisdom to be the most desirable way of life - Singer

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Plato and selfless love

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Plato fails to do justice to what it means to love a person i.e. being selfless and loving the whole person not just their admirable qualities -Vlastos

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female voice in Plato

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in Diotima’s speech the female voice uses maternal language of pregnancy and birth to exclude women from having intellectual dimension -Cavarero

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Sappho on female Symposia

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Sappho reveals the symposia culture of the age of Tyrants and unique insight into female homosexuality -Edith Hall

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Bettany Hughes

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describes Sappho as a “big space”

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Sappho as a woman

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“Because women are emotionally disturbed, their poems are psychological outpourings, that is, not intellectual but ingenious, artless, concerned with their inner emotional lives” -M. Lefkowitz

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Sappho on marriage

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“tempting to see the emphasis on bridal virginity as simply a form of masculine oppression against younger women, lest they dare to enjoy their own sexuality and thus reduce their value as a commodity to a future husband” - Freeman

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Sappho rewriting history

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“world of Sappho…valued urbanity as much as militarism”

“powerful challenge to… an untroubled history of heterosexuality triumphant through all of western culture”

“full consciousness of… her place as a woman aristocrat” -Page Dubois

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Longinus

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fragment 31 as perfect description of desire

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Sappho on marriage

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“female anxiety towards marriage, marriage that did not operate in any romantic terms”

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Sappho on sex

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her poetry serves a “social purpose and public function… sexually segregated society” - Hallett

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Sappho on desire

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“male assumption about competition and about dominance and submission”

“mutual desire… can be explored as female experience”

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Sappho on homoerotic relationships

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“pratice without a name” - Goldhill

“Sappho’s homoerotic stance… was unremarkable” - Hall

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Plato on marriage

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“abolition of the family would improve the cohesion of the society” - Brown

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Plato on love

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“we may be attracted towards beauty, but our real goal is happiness” - Waterfield

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Plato on sex

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“love that enslaves us”

Socrates cares about Alcibides enough to “re channel his love away from bodily lust and towards philosophy”

-Waterfield

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Plato on homoerotic relationships

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just because it was acceptable does not mean that everyone accepted it

Socrates seemed to have “disapproved of the sexual side of homoerotic love”

-Waterfield

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Plato and Diotima

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“cold and heartless” - Waterfield

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Plato and realism

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“does not wholly condemn couples who occasionally give in to their sexual urges” - Dodds

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Seneca on marriage

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“learnt much about the virtues of love from members of his own family” - Motto

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Seneca on love

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“true love is analogous to an ideal friendship” - Motto

“neither good no bad; it’s how you use it that matters” - Gloyn

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Seneca on homosexuality

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“not inherently heterosexual, or indeed inherently sexual at all”

“mutual appreciation of each other’s virtue” - Gloyn

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Seneca on affectus

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“where being in love becomes more important than the pursuit of virtue”

“reason has been lost” - Gloyn

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Seneca on friendship

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“only once you detach from all desires can you build a genuinely selfless connection with another person” - Kreitner

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Stoics on sex

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“sexual intercourse is the very antithesis of reason” - Kreitner

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Seneca vs stoicism

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“they rejected or suppressed the emotions, certainly does not apply to Seneca”

“regulation of emotions rather than their denial” - Motto

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Augustan reforms 18BC

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aim to “revive morality” - D’Ambra

“recover the forgotten values, traditions and rites of the past” - Wallace-Hadrill

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Ovid on marriage

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“married three times and divorced twice before he was 30” - Hornblower

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Ovid on love

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Is subervise and humourous when on topics of love –> hard to pin down his serious opinion
“lack sincerity” - Bishop

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Ovid on sex

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“sexual pleasure must be enjoyed equally by the man and the woman” - Verstraete

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Ovid on homoerotic relationships

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“a few scholars have credited him with a strong aversion and hostility to homosexual love” - Verstraete

“one partner is no more than a victim to the others desire” - D’Elia

the issue is more to do with age “can not be sexually satisfying to both partners” - Verstraete

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Peter Green on Ovid

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“general contempt” for women

“over riding concern” for his own fame

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