Pulm Exam Flashcards
A low FEV1, or a low FEV1/FVC, indicates _____
Obstructive lung disease
A normal DLCO is ____%. Low indicates…
80-120
Low = severe restrictive
Can the pulmonary interstitium be seen on CXR? CT? What even is it?
No and no, not normally. It’s a tissue network for gas exchange that goes to both lungs, alveoli, basement membrane, and capillaries.
Harming the interstitium ==> ….
Less oxygen IN.
4 ways to Dx IPF + 1 way to confirm?
1) PFTs - Spirometry = low FVC; DCLO <80% if severe
2) HxPE - insidious dry cough, DOE, clubbing, rales
3) CT - honeycomb
4) CXR - reticular
Can confirm - biopsy
4 types of PFTs you can order covered in class?
1) lung volume
2) Spirometry
3) spirometry pre/post bronchodilator
4) DLCO
Someone seems to have a restrictive lung disease, but their DLCO is normal. Why?
It could be extrathoracic-caused or a mild restrictive case! DLCO wnl does not mean it’s r/o!
Lung volume PFTs test things like tidal volume (what’s that?), residual volume, and vital capacity. If you add those last two together, what do you get? What’s a normal value for it?
Tidal = without trying
Vital capacity + residual volume = total capacity (normal is 3-4L)
Spirometry is over what time period? What are the three most useful results?
6 seconds
FEV1, FVC, ratio
An FEV1/FVC equal to or under ____ is abnormal, and indicates…
70%
Obstructive lung disease
Your patient’s Spirometry was low. What do you order now, and what does it tell you?
Spirometry pre and post bronchodilator
“Positive” = it improved = probably asthma
What is an FVC? What is a low FVC, and what does it mean?
Maximum amount of air you can exhale after taking the deepest possible breath in.
Normal varies by age/gender etc
Low = restrictive lung disease
If you do spirometry with a forced inspiration also, that’s called a ____. Why would you order that?
Flow Volume Loop
Do it + normal spirometry if dyspnea or stridor.
Obstructive lung disease would show ____ on a flow loop; restrictive would show ___.
Obstructive = coving Restrictive = everything reduced
Good news! Cleveland/ATS PFT interpretation IS NOT on the test!
Oh no it’s nottt (: woot woot
It is on therapeutics though so…
Low total capacity indicates ___. What’s the opposite?
<80 = restrictive >120 = hyperinflation = probable COPD
In what obstructive lung disease could DLCO be low?
Emphysema
Restrictive lung disease means decreased ___, ___, and/or ___.
Expansion
Volume
Diffusion
Restrictive lung disease can be either intrinsic (at the ___), or extrinsic (at the ___). Give examples of each.
Intrinsic = at the interstitium (sarcoidosis, IPF, pneumoconiosis) Extrinsic = at the chest wall/respiratory muscles (ALS, MG, obesity)
What are some prescription drugs that can lead to restrictive lung disease?
MTX
Amiodarone
Nitrofurantoin
Most likely patient to get IPF?
50+yo male, who either smokes or has occupational exposure or GERD
What’s the real name for IPF?
Idiopathic fibrosing interstitial pneumonia
What causes IPF?
Gotcha- it’s idiopathic. Definitely NOT inflammation!
4 s/s of IPF
Insidious dry cough
DOE
Clubbing
Rales
How do you treat IPF?
You transplant that mofo
Okay, you can’t transplant your IPF patient’s lungs. How do you treat it?
Oxygen/vaxxes/pulm rehab
Nintedanib (an RTKi)
Pirfenidone (an antifibrotic)
Pneumoconiosis is d/t…
What are the three common types?
Occupational dust
1) Coal Worker’s
2) Silicosis
3) Asbestosis
ALl types of pneumoconiosis share what three symptoms?
Cough
DOE
SOB
What additional symptom might Black Lung or silicosis have?
Fever
What additional s/s might asbestosis have?
Inspiratory crackles, clubbing
When do symptoms present for Black Lung? For asbestosis?
Coal - asymptomatic for 15yr
Asbestos - asx for 20-30yr
Other names for Coal Worker’s Pneumoconiosis include…
Black Lung
Anthracosis if mild
How do you diagnose and treat Black Lung?
CXR - small upper lung opacities, then fibrosis
No Tx, no transplant, they die.
How do you Dx silicosis?
HxPE
PFTs
DLCO low
CXR/CT - tons of tiny lil nodules if chronic; bilat ground glass if acute
Confirm with biopsy
R/O all else
Risks of advanced silicosis?
CKD
TB
Lung CA
How do you treat silicosis?
d/c working in toxic environment
Can try steroid, but they are eh
Can transplant, but rarely done
Who is eligible for a lung transplant?
<65yo
No substance abuse
BMI 20-29
How do you diagnose asbestosis?
HxPE
PFTs
CXR/CT - pleural plaques, coarse honeycombing, hazy ground glass
How do you treat asbestosis?
Call your lawyer
Quit smoking, or enjoy mesothelioma
Steroids are eh.
When I say sarcoidosis, you say
MULTISYSTEMNON-CASEATINGGRANULOMA
Sarcoidosis can occur anywhere, especially lungs and heart. What particular patient population did he highlight?
Young AAF
Symptoms of sarcoidosis? (3)
Dry cough
Progressive dyspnea
Atypical chest pain
How do you diagnose sarcoidosis?
CXR - bilateral hilar adenopathy
CT - Right paratracheal lymphadenopathy with bilateral diffuse reticular infiltrate; sarcoid galaxy sign
BIOPSY - r/o lymphoma.
Three types of biopsies for sarcoid?
EBUS
VATS
Cervical mediastinoscopy
What is the treatment for sarcoidosis?
Just observe if they’re ASx; steroid course otherwise
Pneumonia predominately affects the ___ part of the lung by what mechanism?
Alveoli
By microaspiration of a virulent organism which takes advantage of a immune system defect
Overall, the main cause of community acquired pneumonia is ___. When is that not the case?
Bacterial
Under 5yo - viral
Immunocompromised - parasitic (toxo), fungal (aspergillus, PCP, histo, crypto, cocciodes)
Getting pneumonia 48-72hrs post-intubation is called…
Ventilator acquired pneumonia
5 categories of pneumonia?
CAP HCAP HAP VAP Aspiration
Criteria for HAP? What’s another name for it?
48hrs or more after getting hospitalized
Nosocomial
HCAP includes hospitals >48 hrs within ___days, ___, ___, ___, or extensive healthcare contact.
90d
Nursing homes
Hemodialysis
IV/chemo
1 cause of CAP is ___. #2 is ____. #3 is ___.
S. pneumoniae
Myco pneum.
Flu virus
Most Sx of CAP are nonspecific like fever/cough/aches; name two more specific symptoms.What about in lil kiddos?
Hemoptysis and pleuritic pain
Kids - restless and not eating
Physical exam findings of CAP include:
CARDIO: (3)
PULM: (4)
CARDIO: tachy, hypotn, hypoxemia
PULM: expiratory wheeze, crackles/rales, tachypnea, and dec/asymmetric breath sounds
Bullous myringitis (on the TM) or erythema multiforme are most often consistent with which etiology of pneumonia? What quality of sputum might also suggest this?
Myco pneum.
Watery sputum or lack of sputum
HypoNa+ and GI Sx are most often consistent with which etiology of pneumonia?
Legionella pneum.
What two special symptoms are most consistent with S. pneum?
Single rigor and rust-colored sputum
“Currant jelly sputum” is most often consistent with which etiology of pneumonia? Who does this type of pneumonia most often occur in?
Klebsiella - COPD and EtOHics
Diagnostic methods for pneumonia
HxPE, CXR PA/Lat (gold standard)
Can also CT s contrast if it’ll change Tx, and microbio stuff
CXR-ordering criteria for pneumonia
1+: Fever >100, tachycardic, tachypneic (>20)
OR 2+: Rales, dec breath sounds, no PMHx asthma
What is a lobar finding on CXR and what does it suggest?
Single lobe or segment/pattern. Often S. pneum.
What CXR findings would suggest viral pneumonia or PCP?
Interstitial or peribronchial
TB CXR finding?
Caseating granulomas!
For what etiologies might a CXR show necrotizing pneumonia?
Aspiration pneum, Group A Strep, S. pneum, staph
Sputum inductions are pretty lame, but when might they be indicated? What is a ‘good’ sample?
Good sample = <25 ep cells + neutros present
Get if they’re immunocomp, bad COPD, EtOHics, admitting to ICU, or have failed ABx
Do all pts get blood cx?
Nah, brah. Pretty much just ICU pts.
But also do it if it’s real severe, or EtOHics, bad liver, no spleen, pleural effusion, or +pneumUAT
What labs are good to get for probable INPATIENT pneumonia pts?
CBC c diff
BMP or CMP
CRP/Pro-calcitonin/Lactic acid/ESR
Macrolides, go
ACE - Azithro, clarithro (po only and DDIs out the wazoo), erythromycin
Cover HNM and atypicals so they are good for respiratory
Resistance is an issue tho
Tetracyclines, go
Tetra po, doxy IV/po, mino po
Cover atypicals and MSSA/MRSA real well; some GNR like H and M but resistance.
Also metal ion DDIs
Use for respiratory, and MRSA stuff.
Fluoroquinoloooooones
Cipro, levo, moxi all IV/po
Cover gram positives (except cipro), HNM, atypicals; moxi is the only one that doesn’t have the moxie for pseudomonas
Use for atypical like TB/legionella/chlamydia!
Don’t use cipro for respiratory.
If your pt was healthy before they got pneumonia, and they haven’t been on ABx in the last three months, what should you prescribe them?
5 days of a macrolide, or 5 days of bid doxy
Your pt is either immunosuppressed or has some crazy comorbidities. What empiric ABx should you prescribe?
5 days of moxi or levo, or 5 days of a beta-lactam + macrolide or doxy
Your pt was healthy before they got pneumonia, but they did use ABx within the last three months. What should you prescribe them?
5 days of moxi or levo, or 5 days of a beta-lactam + macrolide or doxy
You’re in an area where S. pneum resistance is ‘cray cray.’ What should you prescribe?
5 days of moxi or levo, or 5 days of a beta-lactam + macrolide or doxy
You’ve got an inpt pt who needs ABx for their pneumonia. Which ones are ya loadin’ them up with?
IV levo or moxi, OR IV ceftriaxone or Unasyn + IV macrolide or doxy
Above can be +/- glucocorticoid
Obviously go with your gut, but if you need some help deciding whether to admit a pneumonia pt/whether to ship ‘em off to ICU, use…
PSI, CURB/CRB, SMART-COP
What is the PSI good for? Why is it meh?
CAP decisions. It’s got 5 classes of scores, and anything III and up is probably an admission.
You need an ABG and it’s legit insane to try to memorize
What is the CURB score criteria? What’s its main con?
Confusion Urea >19 RR >30 BP <90mmHg systolic and >65yo Not so great on the comorbidities.
How is the CURB scored? What about the CRB?
ICU if 3+, inpt if 2, outpt if 0 or 1.
CRB - admit anything 1 or more
What’s the SMART-COP for?
Figuring out which pts need ventilation or vasopression, if they're >50yo. 0-2 low risk 3-4 moderate risk 5-6 high risk 7+ very high risk
For microbio testing, what’s the UAT good for?
S. pneum and legionella
For microbio testing, what’s the Multiplex PCR good for?
Myco pneum
Pertussis
Chlamydia pneum
RSV/flu/all them viruses
What’s the “standard for diagnosis” for microbio testing? I put it in quotes because it sucks. What can it pick up on?
Serology - Myco pneum, chlamydia pneum, and legionella, past or present
When and how would you transition someone off IV ABx?
If they’re afebrile and improved after 48hr.
Transition to similar class, total of 5-7d.
If you’re treating CAP outpt, what should you tell the pt?
Fever should be gone within 72hr
Call us in the next 48-72hr to f/u or if not improving
Let ‘em know Sx can last even after Tx finished
Super unlikely, but might have to do a f/u CXR in like 12wks
Who gets the pneum vax?
> 65 yo or smoker/comorbidities (repeat in 6yr if under 65yo)
If HAP or VAP is less than 5d, what caused it?
S. pneum, H. flu, MSSA, GNR
If HAP or VAP is more than 5d, what caused it?
S. pneum, H. flu, MSSA/MRSA, GNR, Pseudomonas, Acinetobacter
How do you Tx HAP/VAP <5d old?
IV Rocephin, IV/po levo, IV Unasyn, or po bid Augmentin
How do you Tx HAP/VAP >5d old?
IV Cefepime or Ceftazadime, IV meropenem, IV Zosyn, or IV levo…PLUS IV Vanco or po Linezolid!
If your pt is CTD and has HAP/VAP >5d old, how do you Tx it?
IV Cefepime or Ceftazadime or meropenem,
+ IV levo or aminoglycoside,
+ IV Vanco
There are 4 big red flags for concern of MDR pneumonia. What are they?
1) it’s goin’ round in town
2) HCAP.
3) they’ve been hospitalized for more than 5d.
4) they’ve been poppin’ ABx within the last 90d.
Aspiration pneum is usually d/t…How do you Tx it?
Anaerobes, or just stomach content/fluids (nonbacterial)
Tx nonbacterial by IVF, +/- steroid, +/- ventilator
Tx bacterial by IV clinda, or Flagyl+Amoxicillin for 7-10d
Sx of nonbacterial aspiration pneumonia?
ABRUPT-onset hypoxemia
Diffuse crackles/rales/other pulm edema signs
Sx of bacterial aspiration pneumonia?
SLOW-onset hypoxemia
A CD4+ under 50 puts the pt at risk for __ and __.
MAC and CMV
A CD4+ under 100 puts the pt at risk for __ and __.
Toxo and Kaposi sarcoma
A CD4+ under 200 puts the pt at risk for __.
PCP
PCP Sx are gradual and nonspecific; what signs can clue you into it?
Thrush, hypoxemia, rhonchi/crackles, tachypnea, fever
If you suspect PCP, what labs should you order?
CD4, ABG, LDH, 1,3-b-d-g, sputum with gram stain
If you suspect PCP, what imaging/diagnostic tests should you order? What would you find if they did have it?
CXR- diffuse bilat interstitial infiltrate
CT - ground glass
DLCO - normal or inc
Gallium citrate screening
Mild PCP has what labs? How do you Tx it?
paO2 >70
Alveolar-arterial oxygen gradient <35
po Bactrim 14-21d
Moderate PCP has what labs? How do you Tx it?
Alveolar-arterial oxygen gradient 35-45
IV/po Bactrim + po prednisone 14-21d
Severe PCP has what labs? How do you Tx it?
paO2 <70
Alveolar-arterial oxygen gradient >45
IV Bactrim + IV methylprednisone 14-21d
What’s the preferred ABx ppx for HIV pts against PCP?
Bactrim ss qd or Bactrim ds 3x wk
In what HIV pts would we initiate PCP ppx?
If CD4+ <200, OPC, or CD4+ < 14%
Acute bronchitis is usually self-lim in ___ and is caused by… (7)
1-3wks
Flu A/B, paraflu, RSV, coronavirus, adenovirus, rhinovirus
Characteristic Sx of acute bronchitis?
1-3wk cough c or s sputum
Low-grade fever
Wheezing, mild dyspnea, and rhonchi that clear c cough
Chest pain
How do you Dx acute bronchitis?
HxPE
Cough >5d
r/o COPD/pneum (only get CXR if you’re real on-the-fence about this)
As far as acute bronchitis Dx, sputum sucks, except for when…
you tryna r/o TB but it’s being tricky
How do we feel about procalcitonin?
Ooh we like that. Helps determine whether or not to prescribe ABx for acute bronchitis. <0.1 = no-go. <0.25 = nah, probably not >0.25 = yeah, probably >0.5 = heck yeah.
Besides ABx maybe, what do you do to Tx your acute bronchitis pt?
Antitussive (dextromethorphan, guaifenecin, tessalon pearls)
Bronchodilator (if comorbid or wheezing)
Corticosteroids are a no-go anymore
Defining characteristics of the flu include __, __, and __-onset.
Upper and lower resp involvement
Systemic Sx
Sudden-onset
4 populations who are at risk if they get the flu:
Pregnant
Peds
Over 65yo
Comorbidities
The flu is caused by…
Orthomyxoviridae viruses, types A/B/C, with N or H surface antigens
Most flu outbreaks are caused by type __, hemagglutinin types ___, and neuraminidase types __.
A or B
H1-3
N1-2
Why do antigenic shifts occur?
Point mutations in RNA changing the surface glycoproteins.
Oh so you think it’s the flu? Diagnose it.
Rapid flu nose swab - positives are positive, but negatives might be falsely negative.
Can do an immunofluorescence stain with a resp swab
Can do RT-PCR which is ideal.
What two diagnostic methods are we not gonna bother with for the flu?
Viral Cx or serology
Who do we flu test?
Anyone near an outbreak
Anyone at risk for complications (preg, etc)
Anyone immunocompromised
Anyone inpt, even if they already have CAP
Anyone near healthcare
How do we Tx the flu?
Neuraminidase inhibitors (don’t use adamantanes like amantadine/rimantadine anymore)
Zanaminivir 10mg inhaled bid x5d
Oseltamivir 75mg po bid x5d
Peramivir 600mg IV 15-30min
What’s the difference between a trivalent and a quadrivalent flu vax?
Tri - 2 flu A + 1 flu B antigen
Quad - 2 of each
A pt >65yo wanting the flu vax gets…
Hi-dose TRIVALENT
Does the LAIV flu mist suck?
Yes, it sure does.
Why might we expect a TB resurgence? (3)
Poverty rising
MDR rising
HIV rising
How is TB transmitted?
Respiratory droplets 1-5microns in diameter
TB transmission risk is increased when: (5)
UnTx'd resp infection Cavitation present Acid-fast bacilli present in sputum Undergoing procedures like intubation, bronchoscopy, autopsy Using aerosolized Rxs
5% of individuals progress to active TB, which usually happens within…
2 years of contraction
Potential progression of TB?
immediate clearance –> primary disease –> latent infection –> reactivation disease
Sx of primary TB include fatigue, ___, ___, ___, and most commonly, ___.
Pharyngitis
Arthralgia
2-3wk cough
Fever
Sx of reactivated TB include ___, ___, ___, and __.
Anorexia
Wt loss
Night sweats
Pleuritic/retrosternal chest pain
What testing can you do to confirm TB?
TST & PPD - but not definitive pos or neg.
What vax can interfere with TB skin testing?
BCG (European TB vax)
For the majority of patients, a wheal at or over ___mm is a positive PPD.
15mm
For what pts would you consider a wheal >10mm to be a positive PPD?
<5yo <5yrs in the US IVDA People who live in communal homes or work in myco labs People with high-risk conditions
When would you consider a wheal of 5mm to be a positive PPD?
In HIV/immunosuppressed pts like transplantees
In pts who were known to be exposed recently
In pts with a positive CXR
So if TST/PPD aren’t that great, how can we definitively Dx TB?
Active TB - with sputum (Cx/AFB stain/NAA)
Draw blood for IGRAs (QFT-GIT and TSPOT), esp. if they had the BCG vax
CXR
Still do PPD
What five drugs do you give at once to Tx TB in the intensive phase?
RIPES Rifampin Isoniazid Pyrazinamide Ethambutol Streptomycin (maybe)
The first phase of TB Tx requires… (4ish)
Get baseline LFTs first
Take on an empty stomach
Prescribe intensive dose of RIPES drugs x 2 mo
Then redo sputum Cx/AFB stain, and redo CXR
The second phase of TB Tx involves…
Prescribe isoniazid + rifampin x 4mo until 2 Cx are neg.
Treat Under Direct Observation (someone watches them take EVERY SINGLE DOSE).
After TB becomes latent and 2 Cx come back neg, do you continue treatment?
YES, but it doesn’t need to be DOT anymore, they can do it themselves.
Get another set of baseline LFTs.
Prescribe isoniazid x 9mo + rifampin x 4mo.
Your patient is gonna be far away from a pharmacy for two months during their latent TB treatment. It’s latent, so like, that’s no big deal, right?
That’s okay! As long as it’s less than 3mo, it’s okay to interrupt Tx for LATENT TB.
MDR-TB is resistant to…
Rifampin and isoniazid, and maybe more
XDR-TB is resistant to…
Rifampin and isoniazid, and at least one of the following inj:
Capreomycin
Amikacin
Kanamycin
Which pleura has nerves?
Hehe GOTCHUUUU both do. But only parietal has SENSORY ones.
___ nerves control the central diaphragm, and ___ nerves control the parietal diaphragm.
Central portion - Phrenic n.
Parietal portion - Intercostal nn.
What is responsible for draining each pleura?
Visceral - pulm. venous system
Parietal - upper abd lymphatic system
How much fluid is normally found in the pleural cavity? Describe normal pleural fluid (5).
0.1-0.2 mL/kgLow-protein (<2%) Glucose level about the same as plasma LDH less than half of plasma level WBCs <1000/mm3 pH 7.6-7.64
What in the everloving fandango is the Starling Law of Transcapillary Exchange?
A formula that we barely use but basically says that 1) hydrostatic pressure, 2) oncotic pressure, and 3) permeability all affect how fluid moves from/to blood vessels, and that sometimes diseases (1) congestion, 2) plasma protein issues, and 3) inflammation or burns, respectively) mess with those, making more fluid scoot on in/out.
What is hydrostatic pressure?
The physical pushy push on the capillary walls.
What is oncotic pressure?
The protein concentrations pulling water into capillaries.
Hydrostatic pressure»_space;> oncotic pressure will make fluid…
LEAVE the capillaries
Pleural effusion is…
A SYMPTOM of an underlying issue!
What’s the most common underlying cause of pleural effusion? Which Starling force is affected?
CHF!! Inc hydrostatic pressure
How can atelectasis cause pleural effusion…?
It causes an excessively negative intrapleural pressure
Pleural effusion d/t nephrotic syndrome occurs because which Starling force is affected?
Dec oncotic pressure–> think about it, the low plasma proteins mean less water gets pulled into capillaries (dec oncotic pressure) which means it’s stuck in the lungs.
What disease processes can cause drainage from the lungs to be blocked, causing pleural effusion?
A mass like lymphoma or a mediastinal node.
How can pneumonia cause pleural effusion?
By increasing the capillary permeability.
Money question! How does pleural effusion present??
COUGH+DYSPNEA+CHESTPAINNNNN
+Sx of underlying disease
4 physical exam findings for pleural effusion (given that it’s over ___mL)…?
Dec tactile fremitus
Dec breath sounds
E to A egophony
Dullness to percussion
If >250mL!