Parmenides’ Argument Against Generation Flashcards
Parmenides’ Argument Against Generation
1) If something is generated, then either (a) it comes from nothing or (b) it comes from something else 2) It is impossible that (a) 3) It is impossible that (b) 4) So, everything is ungenerated
Parmenides’ Argument for the Second Premise
1) Nothing can be said of nothing 2) If (1), it cannot be said that something comes from nothing 3) If nothing cannot be said that something comes from nothing, then it is impossible that (a) 4) It is impossible that (a)
Parmenides’ Argument for the Third Premise
1) If (b) is possible, then it is possible for there to be an X and a Y, such that X comes to be from Y, but where Y is not X 2) If X comes to be from Y, then Y became X 3) If Y became X, then Y is X 4) It is impossible that (b)
premise (1) in parmenides main argument
To be generated means to come into existence. Parmenides presents these two options as they are exhaustive.
premise (1) in second premise argument
1) To describe or “say something of” something, one must refer to it. Parmenides believes that we cannot say anything of nothing because there is nothing to refer to.
premise (2) in second premise argument
If we were to say that something comes from nothing, we would be giving a description – which we have already determined is not possible because there is nothing to refer to.
premise (3) in the second premise argument
(a) says that “something comes from nothing”, which we have determined impossible. Therefore (a) is impossible
ambiguity in comings
- When one says, the tree came from the seed, we are referring to two things. If we were to say that God came from nothing, we wouldn’t be referring to two things - we are simply saying that there does not exist something which God came from.
- This is the denial of a generalization, not saying something about nothing.
objection to premise (1) in the second premise argument
We can use the word “nothing” in a generalization/statement without saying something about nothing – therefore, premise (1) is false.
premise (4) in the third premise argument
Parmenides thinks that in any case where an X becomes a Y, Y is X. Our conclusion is the negation of the first premise of this argument
premise (1)-(3) in the third premise argument
Use seed and tree example
outline for parmenides argument
1) present all arguments and explain all premises
2) ambiguity in comings
3) objection to premise (1) in the second argument