M2: Subsequent Possession (Finding, Gifts, AP) Flashcards
Explain the Doctrine of Relative Title
Who has the better title?
The true owner has the best title, but given the situation we can ignore that.
In this doctrine the first finder has better rights. Why? First in Time! Protecting the possession of a first finder, which is a default rule that is often used when you don’t have anything else to work with.
We protect ownership and possessors because it advances social values. Certainty, Fairness, Efficiency
Explain how each value is advanced through relative title
Certainty: What you have with you is probably yours. People don’t carry around titles and receipts to everything. True owner may be absent or unknown.
Fairness: You have expectations on what you hold will not be taken from you.
Useful/Efficiency: Enables socially useful activities, ex: voluntary bailments
Name at least three reasons why we have relative title in property law (protecting finders and possession, not just owners)
- Put items back into the stream of economy (efficiency)
- Promotes peaceful public order (certainty)
- Minimizes self help (judicial economy)
- Encourages honesty (social efficiency)
- Allows socially beneficial activities to occur (ex: bailments)
What is the rule of finders and how does it apply to property law?
Rule of Finders: The possessor/finder has better rights beyond the rest of the world EXCEPT the true owner AND any prior possessors. Beyond the rightful owner, a finder of property is the next in line as the owner and may “maintain trouver” With subsequent ownership, title is relative (better rights)
“Possession is 9/10 of the law”
What is the jus tertii defense and why was it not applied in Armory v Delamirie?
“jus tertii defense”: third party rights
+ Why didn’t the D give the ring/stone back? Probably because the P couldn’t prove ownership, so the D asserted rights of an absent true owner as his defense.
+ Courts usually reject it b/c they want the defendant to stand on their own rights and not rely on an unknown third party, as it makes the defendant look like more of a thief than the plaintiff.
What is a Bailment by definition? What are the two types? List an example for each.
Why is it important to have a distinction between the two types?
Def of Bailment: rightful possession of goods by a person who is not the owner.
Two types: Can be voluntary or involuntary.
Voluntary is very common.
Ex: dry cleaning, keys left with valet, pet at the vet’s office
Involuntary less common. In this case, Armory (P)
Why the distinction? Standard of care from the Bailee to Bailor depends on who benefits from the arrangement
H: F1 loses a watch that they found a year ago. F2 finds it. Later on, F1 finds out that F2 has his watch. Who gets to keep it?
Under the Doctrine of Relative title, F1.
H: Would it have made a difference if Armory swiped the jewel from the real owner’s dresser while at work?
Generally, no. Why? Certainty and judicial efficiency “Any other rule would lead to an endless series of unlawful seizures and reprisals in every case where property had passed from possession of rightful owner” = recognizes possessory interest of a wrongdoer from above all but the true owner.
What were the two conflicting rules and how were they applied in Hannah v Peel?
Finders Rule: Whomever finds a lost item/chattel has rights over everyone besides the true owner
Applied directly to the case:
There was a lost brooch→ P found it → As soon as he was aware it was of value, P gave it to the authorities
→ D never had possession of it → D never had knowledge of it until police notified him
————————-> P is the owner above D
Freeholder’s Rule: If a person finds property while working for someone else/on someone else’s real property, the real property owner has rights above all else but the true owner.
+ Man possesses everything which is attached to or under his land
+ So long as the real property owner exercises control (use rights) on the real property.
+ It doesn’t matter if the property owner is aware of the item’s existence, as long as they are attached to or under the land, it belongs to the owner as a matter of property rights.
When classifying lost property, what are the three main types? Why does this matter in the US?
Lost → True Owner → 1st Finder
Mislaid → Turned in to owner of locus (place found) for a period of time → either goes to True Owner who claims it OR it gets recategorized as abandoned
In the US, owners of the mislaid items usually win. Why? Owners of mislaid items can often retrace their steps to find locus quo again.
With regards to lost items, finders usually get to keep because the owner really doesn’t know where it is, so it rewards honesty in finders (finders keepers)
EXPECTATIONS AND CONTEXT, also the category determines the better relative owner
What were the prevailing values demonstrated by the court in Hannah v Peel’s decision?
Economic efficiency: Gets items back into the stream of commerce. Also protects finder’s relative title above all
Honesty: Hannah came forward and was forthright, and this court rewards his “commendable and meritorious”
Fairness, Expectations, Use: B/C Peel never occupied the house, he bought it and it was taken over by the Army (involuntary bailment). By the court’s definition, Peel never “used” the house and they are treating his rights to items in the house differently than the real property. Why? Expectation of the parties. It doesn’t matter where it was found, what matters is that Peel should expect that when soldiers occupy his home, the dominion control lessens. AND because Hannah had a right to be there, while performing patriotic duty, plus was especially honest and had similar rights to Armory.
Why are the classifications between mislaid and lost property problematic?
It incentivizes dishonesty and goes against the purpose of rule of finders. It’s subject to manipulation. It’s also inherently uncertain and unfair. The classifications are based on state of mind, which is subjective. Instead, many states have a statutory regime with a period of time where the owner can come claim the item, if not claimed it’s auctioned or donated to charity.
How do you define and classify abandoned property?
Abandoned = left behind intentionally, waiving rights to confer, true owner out
Ex: The baseball in Popov was deemed abandoned once Barry Bonds hit it into the stands.
In US property law, abandoned property goes to the finder. Abandoned property ownership is not relative; rather it is absolute.
H: What if you help a friend plant flowers in their yard and you come across a buried box of old, precious gold coins. Who gets to keep them?
Treasure trove = British Common law says that the goods would be auctioned off for a museum and the proceeds split between them (kind of like Popov). US law would likely say that the owner of the land where the coins were found gets to keep them.
Should the law of finders be changed so that the finder in shipwrecks is entitled to a reward if the property in question is returned to its owner or held to be in possession of the owner locus?
Salvage law = that a ship lost at sea and settled on the seabed remains the owner’s property BUT anyone subsequently reducing the ship or its cargo to possession is entitled to the salvage award.
Name at least two justifications for Adverse Possession in favor of the AP
1) Earned Rights: “I did the work and earned rights over the true owner.”
2) Labor Theory and Accession: By putting in the right type of labor (productive use), you have made something that was not originally yours, yours. Metaphysical.
3) Attachment theory: The idea of losing something is painful, you can’t separate the AP with the land.
Name at least two justifications for Adverse Possession in relation to the true owner
1) Sleeping on rights: You snooze, you loose
2) Fairness because quite a bit of time has lapsed
3) Efficiency in not having to go back 30+ years for title searches
4) Fairness + Judicial Efficiency: You meet these terms, we make the decision that the land is yours
What are some community based justifications for Adverse Possession?
1) Making efficient use of the land. Use>Nonuse
2) Wealth distribution (in 3rd world countries)
3) Protecting interests\expectations of neighbors and third parties.
4) Economic value: growing corn and selling it locally vs. letting open field space go wild
What are the five elements of adverse possession?
1) Actual Entry and Use
2) Exclusive Possession
3) Open and Notorious
4) Adverse Under Claim of Right
5) Continuous and uninterrupted
What are the three states of mind when it comes to the adverse claim of right? What is the majority opinion and why?
1) Objective/Irrelevant (majority rule): Who cares about a state of mind since the action has begun and the statute clock is ticking? Why majority opinion: If you worry about subjectivity, you’re missing the intent of the rule. Other two encourage lying.
2) Good faith/Innocent: “I thought I owned it”
Color of title: mistakes happen with title/deeds, a few things to consider with;
Juries tend to favor good faith trespassers in AP cases
3) Aggressive possessor/Maine doctrine (minority view): “I thought I didn’t own it, but intend to make it mine” Not a issue in US, but think of wealth redistribution purposes in 3rd world countries.
If someone is successful in meeting all of the necessary elements to adverse possession, is s/he responsible for paying taxes on the property they now have title towards?
If you get the possession/title, it dates back to the date of entry. You are responsible for taxes, value of what’s on the land.
Some AP’ers willingly pay taxes during the statute of limitations to prove their adverse claim of right.
True or false: If the true owner invites you to use their property, you can adversely possess their land.
False: AP’ers can’t be there on an invite from the true owner.
True or false: An adverse possessor must provide notice in writing to the true owner in order to meet the open and notorious element.
False: Open and notorious behavior in a customary way provides constructive notice to the real owner. The actual owner and the whole world would be on notice if the AP was on the property, but it doesn’t have to be in writing
How does color of title help or hinder AP arguments?
Color of title: an incorrect or invalid deed
a) presumption of innocence;
b) shorter limitations;
c) Constructive possession (quasi owner) of everything in the incorrect document.
A good thing but not as strong as actual possession. Use and actual possession is more important and wins in a dispute over quasi ownership. Prior in time wins over constructive possession