LTD Flashcards

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Barnes et al 1994

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Could you get more LTP if you re-tetanise at the synapse? What is the extent to which you can repeatedly induce LTP

After repeated tetanic bursts (in vivo also) you can max out the amount of LTP you see in a pathway. Frankly, you cant get anymore.

But this posed a problem, if LTP is a neural basis of memory and you can create memories that last a lifetime and can generat enew ones throughout the lifetime, then if the LTP saturated, then where is thecapacity fo the network to store new memories? This question supposes that one synapse participates in any more than one memory. There is no indication that this is true.

There is a stimulating electrode and recording electrodes in amny of the synapses, then you have saturation after repeated stimuli

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Turrigiano (1999)

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What is the alternative for LTP? There are two - one is input specific and the other is not - the one that is not is homeostatic plasticity

Homeostatic plasticity was first described in crayfish -> this was picked up by Turrigiano and explored if this was true in mammals.

Take a population of synapses and upregulate or downregulate ther performance i.e. EPSPs. But not in one specific synapse in an input specific way, but across teh entire population.

The starting weight of any synapse in the network may be increased or decreased but the absolute wweight will stay constant compared to the neighbouring synapse.

How do we induce this?
Manipulate the network using pharmacological systems such a TTX which is a sodium channel blocker. If you block the sodium channels then you have a block in the spiking activity and therefore the activity of the network decreases and therefore causes the network to become more active in response? EPSPs become larger across the network but relative proportions stay same.

If you prevent the inhibitory tone, by giving a GABA inhibitor, then you could have increased activity in the network, recurrent excitation, which has an effect of dampening down the EPSPs.

Increasingly there is evidence that this scaling can be acheived in vivo rather than using the pharmacological tricks.

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Barrioneuvo et al. (1980)

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De-potentiation follows LTP induction

The other possibility to Homeostatic plasticity is LTD but it is input specific unlike the HP. This means if you wanted to solve the gain control problem, which was explored to see if LTD was a thing or not, then you would need to turn the gain down on the very same synapses which were turned up in the first place.

It took a long time to generate an experimental protocol which would model the synaptic response.

Dudek, Bear – found the LTD protocol?

They used a protocol which was take a brian slice and apply a stimulus at 1Hz rather than HFS, and provide 900 of these stimuli. This is not very physiologically relevant but this is enough to prove the principle.

Barrionuevo et al 1980
- You can depress the synaptic response – in an input specific way
o You can remove potentiation at the sites of previous potentiation = depotentiation

You can depress synaptic response and depress it in a long lasting way and achieve it in an input specific way. You can remove potentiation at sites where there was previous potentiation - depotentiation (not quite same as LTD but used together)

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Dudek & Bear (1992)

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NMDA receptor dependent LTD

Dudek described the original LTD and Dudek and Bear also described the underlying mechanism (basic) which was the cause for LTD. With the 1Hz protocol with an NMDAR antagonist APV, we see that there is LTD is induced and is gone back to baseline after APV is applied.

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Mulkey & Malenka (1992)

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NMDA-R dependent LTD is triggered by Ca2+ influx

Wont the LTP and LTD both clash?

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Bolshakov & Siegelbaum (1994) Science

Oliet et al. (1997) Neuron

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mGluR (1 & 5) dependent LTD

You can block the NMDARs and still be able to induce LTD by stimulating the mGluR pathway via the IP3 which is a potassium mobilising agent. This causes a calcium flux which is partnered with the depolarisation of the spine which causes a calcium flow through the channels.

Cerebellar LTD?

Others have also repeated this experiment

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Otani & Connor (1998)

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mGluRs are required for LTD induction

Experiment using MCPG which is an antagonist of the MGluR and also by using a calcium chelator BAPTA - both blocks the LTD induction

This provides similareveidence as Lynch for the LTP that calcium is necessary

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Gerdeman et al. (2002)

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endoCannaBinnoid LTD

First found in the Striatum and layer V visual cortex

But other people have also found the others.

KO animals with no receptor - then there is no ability for the cells to have LTP induction without the CB1 receptor.

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LTP expression
Benke et al. (1998) Nature
Derkach et al. (1999) PNAS

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AMPA-R phosphorylation and de-phosphorlation

Something must link the calcium to the receptor which mediates the current - this is CaMKII

Benke showed that AMPAR conductance can be increased due to LTP induction (We know that this is not the whoel story)

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LTD expression
Lee et al. (1998) Neuron
Banke et al (2000) J. Neurosci

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AMPA-R phosphorylation and de-phosphorlation

Something must link the calcium to the receptor which mediates the current - this is CaMKII

Following Benke showed that AMPAR conductance can be increased due to LTP induction, if LTD dephosphorylates at key sites, then the enhancement would revert back to what it was before the potentiation.

The performance of the receptors does seem to change in repsonse to the phosphorylation or potentiaiton

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Hey-Kyuang Lee et al. (2003)

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Lack of NMDA receptor dependent LTD and reduced LTP in double phosphomutant mice (lack the 2 major GluR1 phosphorylation sites)

You can get rid of LTD if you have key phosphate groups modified such that they cant be phsophorylated. In other words, if you have key sites which are compromised by not being in the molecule then there is no prospect of dephosphorylating at all

The capacity of LTD is vanished because there is no potentiation??
It can be shown that the capacity to produce LTD can be lost

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Mulkey, Herron & Malenka (1993)

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Protein phosphatase inhibitors block induction of LTD (Inhibition of PP1)

Inhibit the enzymes which are phosphatases - which cut of the phosphate that is dephosphorylate.

Okadaic acid is a generic phosphotase inhibitor - if it is applied to a brain slice, and attempt to induce LTD then you cannot - when you remove the ability to remove phosphate gorups then the ability to have LTD also goes

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Mulkey et al. (1994)

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Calcineurin is a Ca2+ /Cam dependent phosphatase

The calcium rise in the cell is important for the induction of LTD - and we have to link this rise in calcium to some enzymatic activity just like the alpha CaMKII in LTP

Calcineurin is a phosphatase - it is calcium sensitive and its target is a calcium calmodulin. This is an important paper in the LTD field

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Zakharenko et al. (2002)

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Presynaptic LTD

FM- de-staining is decreased after mGluR LTD induction

Synaptic transmission rate has decreased with LTD

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Errington et al 1995 - but see Malenka and Bear 2004

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LTD cannot be induced in adult hippocampus in vivo

While LTP studies has started in intact animals with Lomo and Bliss and then into the slices, while LTD went the other way.

But the review by Malenka and Bear explores why we may be failing to do so

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Burette et al. (1997)

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De-potentiation but not LTD can be induced in adult animals in vivo

We are failing to see LTD occur in animals. May be it is the experimental procedure that is wrong. We use low frequency stimuli to cause LTD but this is not entily physiological. It may also be that LTD is an artefact but this is highly unlikely. The key to get LTD may be finding the particular protocol which is used in the animal to produce LTD

This requires pairings of stimuli?

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Griffiths et al. 2008

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Expression of Long-Term Depression Underlies Visual Recognition Memory in a rodent model

Can you identify a role for LTD?

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What are the mechanisms for LTD?

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NMDA-R dependent LTD

mGluR Receptor dependent LTD

Endocannabinoid-mediated LTD

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Bienenstock, Cooper and Munro model (1982)

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BCM rule of learning - arithmetic model for learning:

Suggests the magnitude of the syanptic response would scale as a function of an undescribed factor, c. This factor influences if the gain goes up or down at an individual synapse - so if you get LTP or LTD.

If we imagine if c is calcium, we can imagine that if the calcium concentraiton rises in the cell to some critical value, you get LTP, but if it is low then you get LTD. At the sweet point, you get no LTP or LTD. This could be imagined as true if you think about the HFS that are needed for LTP induction and the 1Hz slow frequency stimuli which have been shown to produce LTD.

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Otmakhov et al 2002

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Just like LTP where there are a lot of enzymatic compounds involved, there are also enzymes playing a part in LTD

cAMP analogues inhibit induction of LTD

This may seem wierd but it is a good way to tie together the LTP and the LTD mechansims and see how they dont clash but run in paralell together.

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Why do LTP and LTD not clash?

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LTP and the LTD mechansims and how they dont clash but run in paralell together:

LTP activates a population of NMDARs with strong depolarisation and an calcium influx. This calcium interacts with CaMKII and the phosphorylation of CaMKII results in the increased synaptic response - unlikely to be the direct phosphorylaiton of the AMPAR but it is part of the sequence of events that result in increased synaptic response

LTD also has a role for cAMP, the suggestion is that the activation of the cAMP pathway arises hen calcium concentrations are high - high levels of calcium leads to the activation of adenylyl cyclase and then cAMP and then PKA - PKA phosphorylates the target and inhibits the phsophotase implicated in okadaic acid story - PKA is a negative regulator on the PP1 pathway - you cannot dephosphorylate when the cAMP levels are high. And cAMP levels are high when the calcium levels are high - when you provide the pattern of activity for LTP

cAMP levels cannot be high to get dephosphorylation the calcium level sensing pathway

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AMPA receptors are rapidly internalised following LTD induction

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This is seen with flurescent GP experiments just like Shi et al - there is evidence for this happening, you can never really silence synapses - the experimental procedure is not really good - you cannot get silent synapses again