LFP COPY Flashcards

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What does LFP Composition consist of?

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The electrolyte, which contains the lithium ions

The separator, allows lithium ions to flow through the battery while preventing the movement of electrons

The cathode, where lithium ions are stored until the battery is charged

The anode, where lithium ions are stored until the battery discharges

The better cathode is at absorbing Lithium ions the better the mileage/SOH of the battery

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Popular NMC Batteries

Model Capacity Price*

Tesla Powerwall 13.5 kWh $8,500

LG RESU10H Prime 9.6 kWh $7,000

Generac PWRCell 9 kWh $10,000

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Popular LFP Batteries

Model Capacity Price

sonnenCore 10 kWh $9,500

Enphase IQ 10 10.08 kWh $9,000

BYD Battery Box HVS 10.24 kWh $7,000

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It’s important to consider how much electricity you’re able to get out of your battery to truly determine what’s the best value

The easiest way to explain this is with an example. Let’s compare the sonnenCore battery with the LG Chem Prime

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sonnenCoreLG Chem PrimeChemistry

LFP NMC

Capacity 10 kWh 10 kWh

Cost (before installation) $9,500 $7,000

Energy output during warranty period*58,000 kWh 32,000 kWh

Comparing sonnenCore and LG Chem Prime solar batteries

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Augmentation Size on Storage Blocks

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~ 500 KWH on a 4MVA system

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  1. RTE and usable energy for 0.5CP, 0.25CP, 0.1CP that CATL guarantees.
  2. We would like to have a degradation tool:
    1. 1 cycle/day at 0.5CP and 0.25CP for rack. How the ambient temperature will impact it?
    2. 1 cycle/day at 0.5CP with i.e. #20 racks in parallel.
    3. 1 cycle/day at 0.25CP with i.e. 30 racks in parallel.
  3. Auxiliary consumptions
    1. i.e. 1 cycle/day at 0.5CP and 0.25CP for rack in different temperature conditions.
  4. 2D, 3D mechanical drawings.
  5. Lifting method (weight, lifting points and center of gravity);
  6. System interfaces: mechanical (how and where to anchor the rack, wires entries etc.), DC power wires and AC auxiliary cross section and terminal required, communication wire and terminal required (max wires length).
  7. Short circuit current test report, arch-flash calculation, MSD type.
  8. MBMU and ETH mech drawing, electrical and communication interfaces and requirements.
  9. What is the rating of the fuse on each rack? provide the datasheet.
  10. Thermal simulation/test results.
  11. Seismic simulation approved anchoring. After a seismic event like IBC high seismic area (IV), how does the rack react?
  12. SOC error reset strategy
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  • MBMU: Communication with rack’s SBMU is via Canbus 2.0, max distance is 50m, all racks are connected in daisy chain. Andy will send common repeater datasheet
  • CATL is working with a 3rd party, DNV-GL for all product fleet
  • Rack fuse is 400A, 250kA
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IP65 vs IP54

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Issue of the Arizona fire, the container was an IP54 with no ventilation and no over-pressure rupture risk, when the fire Marshalls opened the container door they vented adding oxygen that led to the deflagration. Measuring in addition to the thermal runaway spread also the gas concentration and kind of gas helping you to understand the level of danger

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Stat-X - how to calculate right size for the canister?

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The agent calculation, kg needed, is one of the common question that most of Customers ask

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Seismic

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  • IBC/ASCE values (SS,SMS,SDS etc), California building code 2019 and new IBC as well as ASCE, the rail “Z,Y” simulation result is close to the tensile failure, what is the margin CATL uses?
  • Looking the number in this simulation the rack will move/bend/oscillate, has CATL performed simulations to the inner modules to understand what will the impact be on them?
  • Will the max acceleration pass the max acceleration a module may withstand?
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Short Circuit Current

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CATL melting time is around 0.7ms and the clearing time is around 1.135ms

SCC value melting time and clearing time should be added to spec

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Incoming/outgoing section of CC panel. Red/Yellow black conductors are going to PCS, red jacket conductors are DC feeds from other two battery cabinets

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No means of disconnect from PCS to isolate this section and work on it de energized if the entire PCS section is not de-energized. Other two associated cabinets have no means of being disconnected from this section

Almost impossible to replace the DC fuses short of disassembling entire front section including removing the NADER disconnect (above the orange insulator, not shown).

Type of insulating materials used. The orange piece in picture appears as solid metal and sipped in some sort of insulating material or coated

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Explain how the incoming Aux power conductors are routed and connected to NADER-225 Amp CB in this compartment.

Explain why the load inside 480 VAC compartment is connected to the line side of the NADER-225 Amp breaker via solid bus material.

Provide specifications for these buses used to feed all distribution breakers.

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MV, LV Codes for AC/DC Panel

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Provide details on lugs and crimping methodology.

Provide detailed BOM and UL certification for all components used, including but not limited to wires, sleeves, lugs, fuse holders, insulation wraps/covers and shrink tubes, terminal blocks and circuit breakers/disconnects.

Provide information and function for SPD3 and SPD4 (shown in 480 VAC compartment above SPD2) and explain where to find this on the single line diagram.

480 VAC Color coding should be per SDGE agreement.

Panduit used as wire way should be rated for 480VAC circuits (only control wires).

Equipment grounds?

External service disconnect required for CC cabinet – NEC Code requirement section(s): 408.3(F4), 408.5, 409.30

Battery Container feeding CC panel require Disconnecting means – 408.4(a)

HVAC disconnecting means on container 2 and 3 : 705.2010.NEC Code 705.16, 705.20., 705.21

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See 4, 5, 6

Provide clearances and insulation material used on the three-phase buses

Provide details on how this bussing is supported.

Explain how this Buss is being protected from accidental contact. Some area’s may be exposed and is 480 VAC volts.

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Code Issues Main DC Disconnect

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CC Panel Main DC Contactor is required to have a means of operation and visual verification external to the dead front/panel door. An E-Stop is not sufficient. (UL 508A Section 31.2.4 pg 56)

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Servicing

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How do you change any components : Fuses, Disconnect Switches, bus Bars and connections?

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UPS section above the 2500 AMP molded disconnect switch

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Provide detail how this section is isolated from incoming DC section

Provide details how the UPS is cooled and ensure air circulation is adequate

Thermal management design needed to indicate proper cooling of this compartment.

Provide details how to remove and work on the UPS system if needed.

Procedure on how to test, service and replace components on the section above UPS compartment.

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Outgoing cables (to PCS) 1500VDC Section

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Procedure on replacing the 2500 AMP Fuse if required

Fuse and cable sizing needs to be verified in compliance with NEC

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Fusing & Isolation

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Each DC conductor exiting containers should be provided with an Isolating disconnect and Overcurrent protection.

Its highly likely incremental OC protection (Fusing) will be required at some interval DC Bus/Battery rack aggregation.

Fusing is like required to protect the Bus/container-to-container cables from a bi-directional fault current coming from Inverters and Battery racks simultaneously. This fusing needs to be determined from a complete DC short circuit analysis scenario

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Common Questions

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Provide detailed BOM with cutsheets and UL Listing information

NEC Code non-compliances : 480.6(a,d)

Note on cable schedule/Routing: All cables co-located in cable tray at bottom of container, comms and Power Cable to be segregated throughout the entire cabinets.

Proposed FATs should include resistance testing of bus bar bolted connections

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Instrument and Control Wiring

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Control and instrumentation wiring shall be separated from power and high voltage wiring by use of separate compartments or enclosures or by use of separate wireways and appropriate barrier strips within a common enclosure as required by the NEC.

Project and PCS control and instrumentation system wiring shall be bundled, laced and otherwise laid in an orderly manner. Where cable is in wire trays, waterfalls shall be used, as necessary. Wires shall be of sufficient length to preclude mechanical stress on terminals. Wiring around hinged panels or doors shall be extra flexible (Class K stranding or equivalent) and shall include loops to prevent mechanical stress or fatigue on the wires.

Cable insulation material shall be thermoset composition rated for 90˚C during normal operation. Insulation and jackets shall be flame retardant and self-extinguishing and shall be capable of passing the flame test of IEEE Standard 383 or IEEE 1202. Raceway and cable systems shall not block access to equipment by personnel

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Modular Replacement

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The Project PCS, control, batteries and current sensors shall be connected in a manner that enables field replacement. It is expected that most maintenance will be accomplished while maintaining partial service. The physical and electrical arrangement shall permit module replacement with the isolation breaker/contactor closed and the PCS disconnected

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Ventilation

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Ventilation shall be provided as required to prevent the accumulation of potentially explosive gases. Ventilation system design shall be in accordance with the CFC, NFPA 69, and other applicable codes and standards. Operation of the ventilation system shall also be coordinated with any installed gas detection systems. Alternatively, deflagration panels may be utilized on the battery enclosures. Deflagration mitigation shall be designed in accordance with NFPA 68

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Conduit

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In general areas, Electrical Metallic Tubing (EMT) can be used for all feeders hidden from view above ceilings and in walls. EMT fittings shall all be compression-type fittings. Set-screw fittings shall not be utilized

Flexible Metal Conduit (FMC) or Liquid-tight Flexible Metal Conduit (LFMC) shall only be used for connections to motors, transformers, machinery, and lighting,

Rigid Metal Conduit (RMC) or Intermediate Metal Conduit (IMC) shall be used as allowed in the NEC.

Threaded or compression fittings shall be used with all raceway types. Set-screw fittings are not permitted

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2kV Rated Cable

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Cable shall be listed to UL 44 and adhere to NEC requirements

. Cable shall be rated for use in conduit, underground ducts, and cable tray

Insulation shall be thermosetting compound with minimum ratings for normal conductor temperatures of 90˚C

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Industrial equipment: AC 277 or 480 Volts and DC Volts

NEC Wire color code

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Industrial equipment: 277 or 480 Volts

  • Phase 1 – Brown wire
  • Phase 2 – Orange wire
  • Phase 3 – Yellow wire
  • Neutral – Gray wire
  • Ground – Green, green with yellow stripe, or bare wire

DC Equipment:

  • Positive – red wire
  • Negative – black wire
  • Ground – white or gray wire
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Sizing Calcs

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372.6kWh * 23 racks = 8570 kW

4 Hour discharge = 8570/4 = 2142kW

2MVA inverter ~= system 7% oversized

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Fire Prevention

What are the types of redundant systems in place?

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safe cell chemistry, a robust Battery Management System (BMS) design, careful module design and a state-of-the-art fire suppression system. The first and most critical step in preventing a battery fire is selecting a safe cell technology. Manufacturer should designed its energy storage products around Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) battery cells, which present a significantly lower risk of thermal runaway than other technologies. As discussed later in this technical note, using LFP technology minimizes the risk of a system-wide fire being caused by a cell defect. Complimenting the safety of LFP technology, manufacturer includes a robust BMS for monitoring and controlling cell health. BMS tracks cell voltage, temperature and other parameters and then orchestrates a careful balancing act minimizing the risk of exceeding the operating limits of any one cell. Module design also has an impact on the risk of thermal propagation. This risk is managed by incorporating proper cell spacing to prevent the thermal runaway of a single cell from cascading to other cells.

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What type of monitoring systems are used?

Short circuit monitors?

Individual cell sensors?

Thermal sensors?

How are alarms sent / responded to?

What is the combination of factors that would actually be required for a battery to combust?

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BMS has built-in safety limits

Cell defect, improper cell management, and faulty module could lead to battery fire

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Walk through a possible mode of failure and what would prevent it.

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Energy storage systems are designed to dispatch stored energy in a controlled manner. When something goes wrong, typically a cell defect, this stored energy can be released rapidly and in an uncontrolled manner, leading to rapid heating and even fires. A specific example of a system failure could begin with an internal short circuit in a single battery cell, leading to the thermal runaway of that cell. A short is possible, but thermal runaway is unlikely, due to the characteristics of LFP technology as discussed above. In the event of a short circuit, the BMS would immediate recognize the short and disconnect the battery stack from the DC bus, isolating the stack from any source that would further the risk of fire. If the cell were to catch fire, the fire suppression system would respond to excessive heat in the enclosure and extinguish any fire present.

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If one catches fire how can fire fighters fight this?

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discuss all the fire-related infrastruture

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What internal firefighting systems are in place?

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In the event of a fire, the Stat-X fire suppression system discharge fills the energy storage enclosure area with an aerosol suspension. Potassium ions combine with fragments of combustion, inhibiting the fire chain reaction. Agent particles also absorb heat from the fire and form inert gases upon decomposition. Minute Stat-X agent particles (≤2 μm) remain in suspension afterwards, helping check re-ignition. Post-fire area is easily vented and cleaned, with no harmful byproducts generated